Do you think Rivera will successfully rebuild ?

[CRedskinsRule]

I actually think it's really possible RR has decided to tank. We know he considered it last year before the rest of the division was God awful too.



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[MTK]

Folks, it doesn't matter. We've already done the high profile retreads (Gibbs, Shanahan), the college coach (Spurrier), the out of left field shot in the dark (Zorn), the up and coming coordinator (Gruden). We've done it all.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Folks, it doesn't matter. We've already done the high profile retreads (Gibbs, Shanahan), the college coach (Spurrier), the out of left field shot in the dark (Zorn), the up and coming coordinator (Gruden). We've done it all.

We need to try Assistant WR Coach.

But you are right, a Snyder owned team will never win shit. And he doesn't deserve to win shit. Sucks that we all have to be punished for his sins.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We need to try Assistant WR Coach.

But you are right, a Snyder owned team will never win shit. And he doesn't deserve to win shit. Sucks that we all have to be punished for his sins.

Maybe Dan's HVAC guy will know who to hire next.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Maybe Dan's HVAC guy will know who to hire next.

😆 🤣 😂

Get em' on the horn.

[Redskins247]

The big issue this season is the disappointing defense, everyone is upset that they have regressed from year one to two under Ron/Del Rio...they made a few changes and they have not worked at all. If the defense was playing well and we were still losing (because of lack of QB mostly) I really don't think fans would be where we're at. But with the defense sucking, the losing, and all the other Dan shit...here we are. So if next seasons defense doesn't get back to at least the 2020 defense AND somehow get a decent starting QB...Ron's days will be numbered.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

The big issue this season is the disappointing defense, everyone is upset that they have regressed from year one to two under Ron/Del Rio...they made a few changes and they have not worked at all. If the defense was playing well and we were still losing (because of lack of QB mostly) I really don't think fans would be where we're at. But with the defense sucking, the losing, and all the other Dan shit...here we are. So if next seasons defense doesn't get back to at least the 2020 defense AND somehow get a decent starting QB...Ron's days will be numbered.

This is where Im feel like I am at. I predicted wed go 8-9, miss the playoffs and get bad draft spot to boot but I also predicted wed be competitive and in games. losing close ones.

This?

This defense? With all the resources we poured into it?

mind blowing how it is even possible for this group of talent on D to be performing so poorly. They have improved a tiny bit in LB coverage play. Perhaps our DL is winning at the LOS just not making splash plays.

If this D played half as good as they should be, were 4-4 and right where we thought we would be.

The D play is just incomprehensible.

[skinsfan69]

Ron isn't going anywhere. He gets at least 3 years. Problem is we'll most likely be playing a rookie a good portion of the 2022 season. Expect more losses next year. How will ownership take to that? Will they have the patience as the losses mount?

[skinsfan69]

There is no salary cap on what coaches are paid. People will come here for the money. Shanahan came here knowing how incompetent and meddlesome Dan is. He was the biggest name in the NFL w/out a job at the time and he had no problem taking Dan's $.

[Ohioskins]

I just don't know why anyone EVER expected success from Rivera. His time at Carolina was successful when Cam was acting like superman. As Cam declined, so did the team. Rivera did nothing special there. Why expect a different result here?

[rocnrik]

Is there a current coach / system that could take this team(current roster)to playoffs? Would New England staff win 9 games with this roster ??

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Is there a current coach / system that could take this team(current roster)to playoffs? Would New England staff win 9 games with this roster ??

Well there are certainly coaches or systems that wont run a shotgun formation in third and short over and over again. Certainly that would get more out if four first round picks on the d line. Certainly that wouldn’t wait to cut a kicker until the only replacement wasnt a guy who cant kick over the crossbar. I could go on and on. Our personnel doesn’t scream playoff run. But it certainly doesn’t scream bottom three in the league.

[oldfan]

I posted about Rivera being a stop gap coach. (Political hire, if you will.) I truly believe that. I don't have any idea who his replacement will be but either this year of next, he will be gone. I may not have much background in football but I have an immense background in business.

Snyder needed creditability. Rivera is well thought is around the NFL and gave Snyder that semblance of creditability. The real issues that had to be addressed were those in the management levels. Hiring Rivera created the perception that he was trying to turn the culture and team around. Note how the NFL and fans accepted that perception. Snyder was facing immense pressure from bad press, lawsuits and revelation's of misconduct. There were even media stories that suggested that the NFL was in the process of forcing Snyder to sell the team. (Yes the NFL can do that.) Snyder may be a lousy team owner but he is a smart businessman. Hiring Rivera was a business move, pure and simple.

I have been a Redskins fan (yes, Redskins) since 1945. Nothing is going to change that. I will still be rooting for the team when they play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by oldfan

I posted about Rivera being a stop gap coach. (Political hire, if you will.) I truly believe that. I don't have any idea who his replacement will be but either this year of next, he will be gone. I may not have much background in football but I have an immense background in business.

Snyder needed creditability. Rivera is well thought is around the NFL and gave Snyder that semblance of creditability. The real issues that had to be addressed were those in the management levels. Hiring Rivera created the perception that he was trying to turn the culture and team around. Note how the NFL and fans accepted that perception. Snyder was facing immense pressure from bad press, lawsuits and revelation's of misconduct. There were even media stories that suggested that the NFL was in the process of forcing Snyder to sell the team. (Yes the NFL can do that.) Snyder may be a lousy team owner but he is a smart businessman. Hiring Rivera was a business move, pure and simple.

I have been a Redskins fan (yes, Redskins) since 1945. Nothing is going to change that. I will still be rooting for the team when they play.

Every move is technically a business decision. I agree that Ron brings credibility, but he wasn't exactly a total slouch of a coach either. We are talking about a guy with a winning record, multiple division titles and a SB appearance. He was brought in to change the culture in the building and also to win. Those things go hand in hand.

You can't bring in a guy to undertake a culture change as serious as this one but also think of him as a stop gap. That doesn't make any sense. Nobody was going to come in here and turn things around on a dime. It's a 3-5 year project. Dan has to give him a legit opportunity to right the ship otherwise we're back to square one. Gruden had almost 6 seasons here, why wouldn't Ron get a similar opportunity?

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Every move is technically a business decision. I agree that Ron brings credibility, but he wasn't exactly a total slouch of a coach either. We are talking about a guy with a winning record, multiple division titles and a SB appearance. He was brought in to change the culture in the building and also to win. Those things go hand in hand.

You can't bring in a guy to undertake a culture change as serious as this one but also think of him as a stop gap. That doesn't make any sense. Nobody was going to come in here and turn things around on a dime. It's a 3-5 year project. Dan has to give him a legit opportunity to right the ship otherwise we're back to square one. Gruden had almost 6 seasons here, why wouldn't Ron get a similar opportunity?

Changing an organization that has been a complete disaster for 20+ years in only 3-5 years would be turning it around on a dime. If Gruden got 6 years RR should also get that.

I think a big part of Ron's problem is that he's not used to the tough media climate in the DMV. IMO the media is Charlotte was much more deferential to Ron than the media here in DC and Ron doesn't like and isn't used to being questioned as thoroughly and harshly as he is by the DC media.