Offence and Alex Smith

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

It happened on the anniversary of Joey T’s leg injury.

The similarities are amazing ,spooky if you ask me.

[mooby]

If he does retire what position does that leave us in cap-wise? Schneed, where you at?

[MTK]

If he retires his full cap hit comes due, same as if you cut him

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

If he retires his full cap hit comes due, same as if you cut him

Overthecap has this blurb

Alex Smith was traded to the Redskins on March 14, 2018. Smith signed a four year contract extension with the Redskins on March 16, 2018 worth $94 million in new money. Per Albert Breer, Smith*will receive a $27 million signing bonus*and $55 million is guaranteed at signing. If on the roster on the 5th day of the 2019 league year, Smith's 2020 $16 million salary will also become fully guaranteed.

And if he is designated post jun 1 then the numbers look like this

2019 hit
Hit $20,400,000
Cap savings $0

2020
Hit $5,400,000
Cap savings $16,000,000

Not awful really

[NorCall11]

i just dont see how alex ( or his wife) think its a great idea to rehab like hell and come back next year. i myself had a gruesome leg injury. i broke my leg at the knee joint 5 years ago. the bottom part of the joint sheered off. i had an external fixator for 3 months and then had the plates installed. it was a long time before i could even start rehab. i feel pretty good now on most days. im 36. like i said i feel bad for him. but with his break i think he will be ok long term. clean break like that (from what i saw) dosnt usually hurt ligaments or tendons. alot of the redskin fans wanted to see what we have in colt. here we go. im an alex fan and i want to see him play again... but i just dont see it.

[MTK]

There's no special injury or retirement provisions with the cap. If he retires we would take a $20M cap hit next year and have $42M in dead cap. Not good. The contact was set up for a potential out after year 3. So if he retires before then, again, not good.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by MTK

There's no special injury or retirement provisions with the cap. If he retires we would take a $20M cap hit next year and have $42M in dead cap. Not good. The contact was set up for a potential out after year 3. So if he retires before then, again, not good.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/

IF Alex Smith eventually retires early..... I guess some of the young, soon to be Free Agents we were planning on re-signing are now out of reach. This changes our future. I think the NFL should have some kind of cap exemption for career ending injury, death and player misconduct/suspensions.
The cap is becoming something nobody wanted, which is elite teams get broken up. Elite teams can now only stay together a few years. We now have a lot of teams with holes in their line up. The amount of elite teams are fewer and fewer each year.
All because some small market teams are cheap and/or cannot spend. There needs to be a way to keep good teams together if a player and team want to stay together. The player should not be forced to take less to stay with their team. A team that is making money hand over fist.
THE SALARY CAP SUCKS!

[mooby]

So basically we're married to a qb who will be 35 next year, coming off a terrible injury that will decrease his mobility (a key element of his game) and will also be coming off one of his worst statistical seasons in years.

TL;DR: There is no path that doesn't suck.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

So basically we're married to a qb who will be 35 next year, coming off a terrible injury that will decrease his mobility (a key element of his game) and will also be coming off one of his worst statistical seasons in years.

TL;DR: There is no path that doesn't suck.

It was a terrible deal to begin with...a Bruce and Danny special. But Bruce shouldn't just fired for this decisions, but there is simply zero excuse for not having a young, developmental QB on the roster for years.

Now this fucking contract will eat up space for a couple years, continuing to fuck us.

[MTK]

If anyone wants a clear answer as to whether he's going to retire or not, his 2020 salary becomes fully guaranteed as long as he's on the roster the 5th day of the new league year in 2019 (mid March or so). He's not retiring.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

If anyone wants a clear answer as to whether he's going to retire or not, his 2020 salary becomes fully guaranteed as long as he's on the roster the 5th day of the new league year in 2019 (mid March or so). He's not retiring.

I got 20 on them drafting a qb next year (provided Gruden doesn't flame out and get bounced at the end of the year) not only as an insurance policy for Smith but to shore up the position long term.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by mooby

I got 20 on them drafting a qb next year (provided Gruden doesn't flame out and get bounced at the end of the year) not only as an insurance policy for Smith but to shore up the position long term.

Considering Colt looks like an accident waiting for a place to happen, I think the Redskins should draft two QBs next year.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think AS stays on the roster for the first 5 days, then goes ahead and retires Jun 1st.

Because the injury guarantees kick in, we end up having 2 years of 23M dead cap. We also will have to re-work Colt's salary because he can void the 2nd year of his contract based on playing time details.

Definitely need to take a rookie this year, but that really puts us right back in the never ending cycle, because the one position this FO can't pick is QB...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think AS stays on the roster for the first 5 days, then goes ahead and retires Jun 1st.

Because the injury guarantees kick in, we end up having 2 years of 23M dead cap. We also will have to re-work Colt's salary because he can void the 2nd year of his contract based on playing time details.

Definitely need to take a rookie this year, but that really puts us right back in the never ending cycle, because the one position this FO can't pick is QB...

It's likely 6 months before he can resume running... so retiring in June puts him 7 months post injury. He won't even know what he's capable of yet at that time. Unless his leg is just completely ruined and the doctors say yeah no way, I don't know why he would be so quick to make a decision.

Let's let this thing play out a while before we toss dirt on him. He very well could be back for training camp, maybe start out on PUP. I've seen a few sports docs on Twitter suggest this same thing.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by MTK

It's likely 6 months before he can resume running... so retiring in June puts him 7 months post injury. He won't even know what he's capable of yet at that time. Unless his leg is just completely ruined and the doctors say yeah no way, I don't know why he would be so quick to make a decision.

Let's let this thing play out a while before we toss dirt on him. He very well could be back for training camp, maybe start out on PUP. I've seen a few sports docs on Twitter suggest this same thing.

How about his mental state after such a horrific injury? He was already jittery, what would he be like if he recovers?