Postgame Falcons

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think we have a good idea of what kind of team we have at this point in the year. If we play good D and get the run game going, we can win games.

Against air-raid attack offenses with stout defenses like Atlanta we don't stand a chance. Defense looks terrible against these aggressive teams on offense. And asking Alex Smith to do anything more than play a slow, ball-control offense predicated on a working running game is a bad idea.

I watch teams like the Rams, Saints, Pats, even the Packers and I wonder how they get so lucky having so many reliable options on the field at the same time.

It's not luck. They draft or trade for explosive players.

[MTK]

The Redskins are who we thought they were. Can't hang with the big boys.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

The Redskins are who we thought they were. Can't hang with the big boys.

They can hang with them if they dont have a scary passing attack, (Car, DAL, Etc) but when we play teams like NO, ATL , even INDY we saw what happened. That's why I dont see us beating the Eagles, Wentz will carve us up and we wont score enough to stay in the game. I'm not sure what Jay and company were planning when they put this Offense together, if it wasn't for AD we would be 3-5 right now and Jay would be on the way out.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

For me the most disconcerting part was just how ineffective our DTs were against BACKUPS. Everyone is due for a bad game, so I'll chalk it up to that, but our beastly line got mauled by garbage. Mack is an All-Pro but beyond that... ????

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me the most disconcerting part was just how ineffective our DTs were against BACKUPS. Everyone is due for a bad game, so I'll chalk it up to that, but our beastly line got mauled by garbage. Mack is an All-Pro but beyond that... ????

That is the difference in being a GREAT defense and a solid one, ours is not great because they lack consistency. All week we heard about the Falcons beat up OLINE and bad defense and we couldn't do shit on either. Jay just seems like he's out coached way too much, the fact that some are asking for Colt Mccoy is also absurd, what the hell has he ever done to warrant a starting job halfway through the season? He beat Dallas 1 time on MNF, big deal. Alex is what he is but he has NO help at WR, dont tell me about Doc, he is garbage. Crowder is hurt, Mo harris is nothing more than a ST player that is lucky to see the field due to injuries and lack of talent. Reed is not elite anymore and VD is basically old and done. The fact is we dont have the heat to keep up with the good teams and our defense is not as good as we thought.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That is the difference in being a GREAT defense and a solid one, ours is not great because they lack consistency. All week we heard about the Falcons beat up OLINE and bad defense and we couldn't do shit on either. Jay just seems like he's out coached way too much, the fact that some are asking for Colt Mccoy is also absurd, what the hell has he ever done to warrant a starting job halfway through the season? He beat Dallas 1 time on MNF, big deal. Alex is what he is but he has NO help at WR, dont tell me about Doc, he is garbage. Crowder is hurt, Mo harris is nothing more than a ST player that is lucky to see the field due to injuries and lack of talent. Reed is not elite anymore and VD is basically old and done. The fact is we dont have the heat to keep up with the good teams and our defense is not as good as we thought.

I was gonna post but this says it all for me!! I agree 100%

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That is the difference in being a GREAT defense and a solid one, ours is not great because they lack consistency. All week we heard about the Falcons beat up OLINE and bad defense and we couldn't do shit on either. Jay just seems like he's out coached way too much, the fact that some are asking for Colt Mccoy is also absurd, what the hell has he ever done to warrant a starting job halfway through the season? He beat Dallas 1 time on MNF, big deal. Alex is what he is but he has NO help at WR, dont tell me about Doc, he is garbage. Crowder is hurt, Mo harris is nothing more than a ST player that is lucky to see the field due to injuries and lack of talent. Reed is not elite anymore and VD is basically old and done. The fact is we dont have the heat to keep up with the good teams and our defense is not as good as we thought.

Damn, that is depressing, but I can't argue with any of it.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Damn, that is depressing, but I can't argue with any of it.

It is man, every time I get on this koolaid it turns sour. I will just sit and wait and see from now on. I think 10 wins would be a great season for this roster. I don't think we get 10 but we will see

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

For me the most disconcerting part was just how ineffective our DTs were against BACKUPS. Everyone is due for a bad game, so I'll chalk it up to that, but our beastly line got mauled by garbage. Mack is an All-Pro but beyond that... ????

That's not particularly true when it came to our DTs. Atlanta was doubling our tackles on many of their running plays. Or, they were running on the edge of our defensive line.

Our ILBs and safeties were doing a poor job filling.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

That's not particularly true when it came to our DTs. Atlanta was doubling our tackles on many of their running plays. Or, they were running on the edge of our defensive line.

Our ILBs and safeties were doing a poor job filling.

That is called out scheming your opponent, happens alot against us

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That is called out scheming your opponent, happens alot against us

You'd get no argument from me on that front. I was just letting the previous poster know that Atlanta wasn't just mauling our DTs. Our tackles were actually doing their job, as far as occupying blockers. Once that happens, then it's the job of the ILBs and safeties to fill and make the play.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

That's not particularly true when it came to our DTs. Atlanta was doubling our tackles on many of their running plays. Or, they were running on the edge of our defensive line.

Our ILBs and safeties were doing a poor job filling.

Ahh, good to know. Felt like we were getting man-handled up front.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

That's not particularly true when it came to our DTs. Atlanta was doubling our tackles on many of their running plays. Or, they were running on the edge of our defensive line.

Our ILBs and safeties were doing a poor job filling.

Agreed, but I don't think our front 4 had an awesome game either...

Now I was really amazed by how poorly Mason Foster and Zach Brown played... These 2 guys were having a tremendous season so far, but on Sunday they completely disappeared, late to their spots and missing their gaps all game long...

[Chico23231]

Can someone explain this to me: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/GrudJa0.htm

Why has the Jay Gruden passing offense become so fucking aweful? As OC for Bengals, throw away the first 2 years while he became acclimated...the ranking of passing offense is really good: OC: 8th, 11, HC: 11, 2, 12,

Right now its a career worse: 24th in the league. Tell me what is wrong...He's never had great talent...probably avg talent at QB, WR, TE, and RB. Oline Protection has been decent overall this year.

What has happened to the Jay Gruden passing offense?

I think if you say well "we are running the ball better"...that's a red herring. The passing offense should only get better from a better running attack.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Can someone explain this to me: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/GrudJa0.htm

Why has the Jay Gruden passing offense become so fucking aweful? As OC for Bengals, throw away the first 2 years while he became acclimated...the ranking of passing offense is really good: OC: 8th, 11, HC: 11, 2, 12,

Right now its a career worse: 24th in the league. Tell me what is wrong...He's never had great talent...probably avg talent at QB, WR, TE, and RB. Oline Protection has been decent overall this year.

What has happened to the Jay Gruden passing offense?

I think if you say well "we are running the ball better"...that's a red herring. The passing offense should only get better from a better running attack.

It HAS to be on Smith...right? Cousins had no better WRs last year and still moved the ball down the field much better than this. I can't imagine Gruden redesigned all his passing plays...so it's Smith. Either he just isn't comfortable enough in the offense to run it efficiently, or he simply doesn't trust the WRs and TEs to throw on time. How often is he throwing a receiver open? Whoever he throws to, is usually just waiting on the ball. It's rare for any of WRs to catch a ball in stride where they can get any yards after a catch.