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Sign Peyton Manning 43 32.82%
Trade up for RGIII 88 67.18%
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:15 PM   #1
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Re: Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

If RGIII is that franchise QB, I don't care about Riley Reiff, Manti Te'o, Alfonzo Denard, or Andersen "The Spider" Silva. A franchise QB makes all those holes disappear so I send my 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 3rd this year and a 4th next year for my QB and we are still left with:

2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th plus FA. You mean to tell me we can't fill holes with that? I don't want Manning.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:21 PM   #2
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If RGIII is that franchise QB, I don't care about Riley Reiff, Manti Te'o, Alfonzo Denard, or Andersen "The Spider" Silva. A franchise QB makes all those holes disappear so I send my 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 3rd this year and a 4th next year for my QB and we are still left with:

2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th plus FA. You mean to tell me we can't fill holes with that? I don't want Manning.

So you want to piss away draft picks, and sign big name FAs? If that doesn't wreak of Vinny, I don't know what is. After a decade of doing business that way, you'd think that you would have learned a lesson by now. I guess it's that battered spouse syndrome.

Most smart teams build their team via draft and supplement via FA. We have been doing the opposite up until this past year. I like the new way.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:42 PM   #3
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Most smart teams build their team via draft and supplement via FA. We have been doing the opposite up until this past year. I like the new way.
Yeah, me too. I'm tired of being the SB champs of the offseason.

"Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results".

The Skins have repeated the same mistake for 11yrs. They shift one year and do something different with good results and everyone gets withdrawls and wants to return to the Skins of old.
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If RGIII is that franchise QB, I don't care about Riley Reiff, Manti Te'o, Alfonzo Denard, or Andersen "The Spider" Silva. A franchise QB makes all those holes disappear so I send my 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 3rd this year and a 4th next year for my QB and we are still left with:

2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th plus FA. You mean to tell me we can't fill holes with that? I don't want Manning.
To be clear though, it's not the quarterback that makes all those holes disappear, its the winning. And the holes are always going to be there. Doubly so if you don't do much winning.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:33 PM   #5
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If RGIII is that franchise QB, I don't care about Riley Reiff, Manti Te'o, Alfonzo Denard, or Andersen "The Spider" Silva. A franchise QB makes all those holes disappear so I send my 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 3rd this year and a 4th next year for my QB and we are still left with:

2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th plus FA. You mean to tell me we can't fill holes with that? I don't want Manning.
Nice, except it's being reported it would be more like 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 2nd rounder in 2012 and a 3rd rounder in 2013.

Now add to that the Browns, and Miami and whoever else would like to have him deciding to add a pick or two here and there just to take it out from under the Skins trying to move up.

No thanks. I'd prefer to have the picks, hope PM gets healthy enough to play, and if not use Tannehill, Wilson, Weeden or whoever.
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If RGIII is that franchise QB, I don't care about Riley Reiff, Manti Te'o, Alfonzo Denard, or Andersen "The Spider" Silva. A franchise QB makes all those holes disappear so I send my 1st rounder in 2012 and 2013, as well as a 3rd this year and a 4th next year for my QB and we are still left with:

2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 7th plus FA. You mean to tell me we can't fill holes with that? I don't want Manning.
This guy gets it. We can plug all the holes we want but until we have a franchise QB we are not even in the game.

We have the 6th pick now and and the good fortune of the #2 overall pick being held by a team that doesn't need a QB. We will never have a better chance to get our hands on a franchise QB. I would love to have a year or 2 of Peyton while RG3 learns but if I have to pick I am going with 10+ years of RG3 over 2 years of Peyton.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:18 PM   #7
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To quote the movie Big Daddy: "That guy doesn't count, he can't even read."
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:26 PM   #8
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So you want to piss away draft picks, and sign big name FAs? If that doesn't wreak of Vinny, I don't know what is. After a decade of doing business that way, you'd think that you would have learned a lesson by now. I guess it's that battered spouse syndrome.



Most smart teams build their team via draft and supplement via FA. We have been doing the opposite up until this past year. I like the new way.
I don't remember saying signing big name FAs. I make the trade for the guy who I think will be the face of my franchise for the next 15 seasons. Fill my holes with smart FA signings like we have been doing. You can stockpile all the picks you want but without a QB you'll be drafting in the top 10 every year. Eventually you got to pull the trigger.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:30 PM   #9
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I don't remember saying signing big name FAs. I make the trade for the guy who I think will be the face of my franchise for the next 15 seasons. Fill my holes with smart FA signings like we have been doing. You can stockpile all the picks you want but without a QB you'll be drafting in the top 10 every year. Eventually you got to pull the trigger.
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I don't remember saying signing big name FAs. I make the trade for the guy who I think will be the face of my franchise for the next 15 seasons. Fill my holes with smart FA signings like we have been doing. You can stockpile all the picks you want but without a QB you'll be drafting in the top 10 every year. Eventually you got to pull the trigger.
I"m sorry. I missed the 49ers being in the top 10 in the draft this year.


Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I figured you guys would have "gotten it" over this past decade but apparently you long for the Cerrato era back again. *sighs*
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I"m sorry. I missed the 49ers being in the top 10 in the draft this year.


Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I figured you guys would have "gotten it" over this past decade but apparently you long for the Cerrato era back again. *sighs*
Holey crap. I had no idea you put this up, I was on page 3 when I wrote the same thing in a responce. Scarey.
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Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I figured you guys would have "gotten it" over this past decade but apparently you long for the Cerrato era back again. *sighs*
They have had a top-11 pick every year from 2005 until this past season. One was used in a trade down.

But deliberately getting a top-11 pick every year would grate you due to your ethics about sport, now would it?
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And I still think RGIII will be there at #6 but if we want to trade up for him, I'm not against it.
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And I still think RGIII will be there at #6 but if we want to trade up for him, I'm not against it.
No way he is there at 6 pick even if the browns don't want him someone else below will trade up to get him.
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It could be the proverbial smokescreen again, but Kyle Shanahans interview with Sheehan on the radio makes me think that as of right now - the redskins don't think that RGIII is not worth giving up several high draft picks for. Still early though ... and there's a lot of mind games to be played so I don't know.
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