Anthony Mix Must Be Our Man

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

*I* don't think anyone is actually overhyping Mix to the extent they feel he'll be a superstar. What they are saying is that if the team thought enough of the guy to sign him to the 53 man roster frrom the Giants PS, it's conceivable they saw some potential in him. All I see suggested here is that some feel he should be given an opportunity to see if he can be productive.

There's really not much difference in discussing him as it is discussing a WR in the draft who may, or may not be available at the time the team makes a selection. We all realize AM is not Chad Johnson, or Randy Moss, that does not however preclude him from being effective. He hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet, but neither has that WR somewhere waiting to be drafted.

Well in that case, I don't think you're saying very much, because every player on the team is given an opportunity to show that they can be productive. That's the process the team goes through in training camp and preseason.

But allowing Mix an opportunity does not preclude the Redskins from making a move at WR, either through the draft, FA, or trade.

It's nice to dream about Mix, but what my camp is saying is that it's a huge mistake to COUNT on him for anything. The creator of this thread seems to think the Redskins believe Mix is "their guy." The only guy he is to the Redskins right now is another player with POTENTIAL. He by no means is considered the heir apparent to the #2 job Zorn is referring to. Thinking otherwise IS overhyping him.

I get what you're saying though, he'll get his chance. But that's no different than any other year or any other player.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

*I* don't think anyone is actually overhyping Mix to the extent they feel he'll be a superstar. What they are saying is that if the team thought enough of the guy to sign him to the 53 man roster frrom the Giants PS, it's conceivable they saw some potential in him. All I see suggested here is that some feel he should be given an opportunity to see if he can be productive.

There's really not much difference in discussing him as it is discussing a WR in the draft who may, or may not be available at the time the team makes a selection. We all realize AM is not Chad Johnson, or Randy Moss, that does not however preclude him from being effective. He hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet, but neither has that WR somewhere waiting to be drafted.

good post. Per what I posted earlier, I look at it similar to Anthony Montgomery. He got a little pt in 06, the draft comes up & they didn't draft any d linemen, saying they felt they could get by w/the group they had.

A year later, d line is still a priority need, but Montgomery started the whole year, and while unspectacular, held his own on a solid D.

Mix might be held in that same regard w/the coaches, they realize he's unlikely to be a pro bowler, but from what they've seen in practice, feel he can contribute.

IMO, if we draft a wr that indicates they have some confidence that Mix can at least contribute as the young un learns te ropes.

On a side note, anyone know Thrash's contract situation? Is there a good chance he could be cut? I love the guy, but now that Mix has made his mark on sepcial teams, Thrash could be the odd man out.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

good post. Per what I posted earlier, I look at it similar to Anthony Montgomery. He got a little pt in 06, the draft comes up & they didn't draft any d linemen, saying they felt they could get by w/the group they had.

A year later, d line is still a priority need, but Montgomery started the whole year, and while unspectacular, held his own on a solid D.

Mix might be held in that same regard w/the coaches, they realize he's unlikely to be a pro bowler, but from what they've seen in practice, feel he can contribute.

IMO, if we draft a wr that indicates they have some confidence that Mix can at least contribute as the young un learns te ropes.

On a side note, anyone know Thrash's contract situation? Is there a good chance he could be cut? I love the guy, but now that Mix has made his mark on sepcial teams, Thrash could be the odd man out.

First, I have to disagree on the Anthony Montgomery comparison, because Montgomery was somebody drafted by Gibbs and Grilliams. He was identified as a HUGE talent lacking in work ethic. They figured if they could kick him into gear he could be huge. So they kicked him into gear, and now he's an above-average NFL starting DT.

The same cannot be said for Mix. He is tall, he is somewhat fast, but his route-running is severely lacking. It's not like Montgomery, where the coaches can try to kick him into gear and create a starter. Montgomery had all the tools, he just didn't have the work ethic. I'm not sure Mix has all the tools; he's got the size and straight line speed, he works hard and puts out lots of effort, but he struggles to get open because he simply isn't very agile. That's not quite as coachable as work ethic.

I'd love it if you were right though, and I hope he takes advantage of his opportunities and steps it up for the 'Skins. But I think we'd be remiss to count on that and pass on making a move at WR.

As for Thrash, that's a great question. Gibbs loved him because of his special teams abilities more than anything, plus he's a real hard worker. But the question is will Zorn be as high on Thrash as Gibbs was? Danny Smith is still with us coaching special teams, so you can be sure he'll get in Zorn's ear about keeping Thrash around. But in the end it will be Zorn's call, he might want to go a different direction.

If we don't acquire any WRs this offseason, then I'd say Thrash definitely stays. But I figure we're going to acquire at least one either by trade, free agency, or the draft. We'll see where that leaves Thrash.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First, I have to disagree on the Anthony Montgomery comparison, because Montgomery was somebody drafted by Gibbs and Grilliams. He was identified as a HUGE talent lacking in work ethic. They figured if they could kick him into gear he could be huge. So they kicked him into gear, and now he's an above-average NFL starting DT.

The same cannot be said for Mix. He is tall, he is somewhat fast, but his route-running is severely lacking. It's not like Montgomery, where the coaches can try to kick him into gear and create a starter. Montgomery had all the tools, he just didn't have the work ethic. I'm not sure Mix has all the tools; he's got the size and straight line speed, he works hard and puts out lots of effort, but he struggles to get open because he simply isn't very agile. That's not quite as coachable as work ethic.

I'd love it if you were right though, and I hope he takes advantage of his opportunities and steps it up for the 'Skins. But I think we'd be remiss to count on that and pass on making a move at WR.

As for Thrash, that's a great question. Gibbs loved him because of his special teams abilities more than anything, plus he's a real hard worker. But the question is will Zorn be as high on Thrash as Gibbs was? Danny Smith is still with us coaching special teams, so you can be sure he'll get in Zorn's ear about keeping Thrash around. But in the end it will be Zorn's call, he might want to go a different direction.

If we don't acquire any WRs this offseason, then I'd say Thrash definitely stays. But I figure we're going to acquire at least one either by trade, free agency, or the draft. We'll see where that leaves Thrash.

good points, and if Mix is simply not athletic enough to be good at the position then there's only so much "coacing up" that will work, but the avg. wr takes a few years to adjust. Except for the small % that can come in & start as rookies and put up good #s in yr. 2, most take 3 years to reach their full potential.

Mix might be closer than we think. also, maybe Mix has had work ethic issues himself & he's starting to come around. You're right that if he's not agile enough his routes will always suffer, but maybe he's developed poor route running habits, and never had enough coaching to correct him.

I'm only trying to show a possible, logical explanation to support what the thread poses. Who knows what Zorn will think of him & how he'll fit in the wco? I agree that we'll at least draft a wr, maybe 2 if we get those comp. picks.

I agree about thras. The more I think about it, if we acquire a wr, Thrash's best chance seems to actually hinge a lot on Mix becoming the #3 or #4 wr. If it's between he & Mix for the final wr spot, I think Mix would have to really suck at wr not to make it, as he's shown he can play teams well. We ended last year w/6 wr's, was McCardell inactive & thought allowed us to keep all 6?

[saden1]

Wouldn't Mike Espy + Anthony Mix be a deadly combo? They could be the most dynamic due in NFL history if given a chance! Imagining the possibilities brings warmth to my heart and tears of joy running down my cheeks.

[SeanTaylor21]

anthony mix is not fast, cant catch, and all he will be in his career is a special teams player. thers a reason why he was cut from the giants, hes got butterfingers!

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by saden1

Wouldn't Mike Espy + Anthony Mix be a deadly combo? They could be the most dynamic due in NFL history if given a chance! Imagining the possibilities brings warmth to my heart and tears of joy running down my cheeks.

sarcasm?? If so thats pretty funny.

[dmek25]

maybe the skins are satisfied using Mccardell and Caldwell? but Mix will probably get his look at training camp. and my god, the guys 6'5", so i know alot of people around here want him strictly due to the fact he is tall.

[jamf]

Holy Crap People!
You sound like a bunch of desperate housewives: "I want the biggest man I can find".

Big WR's aren't successful in the NFL, Athletic, strong and fast WR's that happen to be tall are.

Look at all the hype about Matt Jones and Reggie williams, They are not starting caliber WR's. The small journeyman Dennis Northcut beat them both out for lead WR.

Like Smootsmack said to his prom date, Size doesn't matter.

Bring Back The Smurfs!

[Stuck in TX]

poor confused Redskins fans. Look what we have become. Just because we havnt made a huge splash in the FA we are suddenly calling our special teams #5 or 6 WR our next go to guy. We must have patience. I too am bored but we must wait. Something tells me we will have an addition sooner or later be it through the draft or FA to our WR corps, and it is evident that Mix isnt going anywhere and can only get better.

[That Guy]

if only we let patrick ramsey start 16 more games.... i mean, he WAS 6'5"... how could he NOT be awesome?


^that's what all these mix threads sound like.

[bedlamVR]

There is one thing that I wonder about here . What are we really looking for ? A No.1 WR ? No that is Moss when healthy he is as dangerous as any wideout in the league . People thinking he needs a big WR opposite him need to think who was on the opposite side of the field in 2005...David Patten ...hmm

So we are looking for a No2. WR ...well no not really ARE may man the slot more in this scheme but he is the guy we will be looking for, for no.2. kind of production and in 2007 he came on leaps and bounds as a starting WR and stop him returning punts in the hope he can stay healthy.

So we are really looking for a No.3. wideout someone reliable but not necessarily spectacular also given that Cooley, Portis, Sellars will be important in the passing game they are not going to get a huge amount of action . Do we really want to spend big $$$$ on this kind of guy . Sure we could draft a guy but first round is there anyone really there who could be the guy down the stretch, or more importantly is there a WR in the first round who will be available and offer more value than addressing our OL, DL or DB.

With all this in mind then can Mix be the guy...maybe . I saw him in London (mistaking him for Burress) and I am not sure how many scrubs the team would bother taking with them so I kind of think the Giants were high on the guy . His career may be nothing more than James Thrash but even he was a No.1. WR in philly so that is no bad thing .

Would it be wise to bank on Mix to be the guy ... hell no. But keeping Caldwell or picking up a bargin basement player or second day pick would be an adequate plan B in my mind .

Sure we do need a stud to pick up for Moss as our No.1. guy but unless said stud falls in our laps whoever we pick up will do time on the bench being developed so why not go with Mix or Espy or whoever.

[EXoffender]

I like Mix and don't care what he's done or not done to this point in his career. If he has it in him to step it up, he'll have a chance this year to catch some balls.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

I like Mix and don't care what he's done or not done to this point in his career. If he has it in him to step it up, he'll have a chance this year to catch some balls.

You guys just crack me up. If he had it in him he would have stepped in and stepped up last season. There is a reason why he was a part time starter in college and barely has an NFL roster spot.

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by saden1

You guys just crack me up. If he had it in him he would have stepped in and stepped up last season. There is a reason why he was a part time starter in college and barely has an NFL roster spot.

For some guys it takes it takes time. There are many stories about 'career backups' and underachievers who are given a chance or counted on in 'desperate' situations and become staples in their teams rosters. What most of us are saying here about Mix (and Caldwell) is we have a guy, let him compete, let's make a decision from there. We're not saying there's no need to draft a WR or look at an affordable FA because Mix is the next Jerry Rice. It seems you are for aquiring big-ticket FAs and believe if a player isn't a first day pick, he obviously is not talented enough to make any NFL team's roster. We all are for upgrading but there is always a possibility that that big-ticket FA WR will be a Brandon Lloyd and the first day pick ends up being Taylor Jacobs...