Media Bias

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?

Two I think do a very good job are NPR and AP. I all so like Reuters,Politico CBS,ABC and yes I like the WASHINGTON POST and NY TIMES .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?

This is a chart from www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com that looks like the author has put good research into it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a chart from www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com that looks like the author has put good research into it.

Interesting to compare this against Chico's post above where he thinks CBS
and NBC are clearly biased and CNN is doing the devil's work.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

Interesting to compare this against Chico's post above where he thinks CBS
and NBC are clearly biased and CNN is doing the devil's work.

I like my choice's as well.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Interesting to compare this against Chico's post above where he thinks CBS
and NBC are clearly biased and CNN is doing the devil's work.

From the blog writer's who i am page:

As I have said in other parts of this blog, I consider myself moderately liberal, but with a good understanding and appreciation of conservative positions. Some people think that means that the sources I placed on the chart should all be shifted over to the left one column. If so, that’s fine—you can mentally shift them all over to the left and continue to use the chart that way.

I doubt this is an exact graph and given Chicos fiery nature his characterizations are understandable

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is a chart from Media Bias Chart - All Generalizations are False that looks like the author has put good research into it.

I'm really glad you found this, I saw this a couple weeks ago but couldn't dig it up later. For the most part it reaffirms my bias' on where I think most agencies stand too.

[MTK]

I still think the fake news/bias mantra is way overblown especially since Trump started calling anything and everything fake news. People now use it as a crutch to discount news they don’t agree with. Of course you don’t want to rely on one source for all of your news, that’s just common sense. And there will always be some people not capable of critical thinking in order to sort through all the noise.

People act like back in the good old days news wasn’t biased and it was always just the facts. That’s BS. We just have a larger volume of information coming at us today and it’s 24/7 crap to sift through.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

I still think the fake news/bias mantra is way overblown especially since Trump started calling anything and everything fake news. People now use it as a crutch to discount news they don’t agree with. Of course you don’t want to rely on one source for all of your news, that’s just common sense. And there will always be some people not capable of critical thinking in order to sort through all the noise.

People act like back in the good old days news wasn’t biased and it was always just the facts. That’s BS. We just have a larger volume of information coming at us today and it’s 24/7 crap to sift through.

I think its wrong to conflate fake news with media bias. There are examples of both occurring more frequently.

Media bias is more or less a generalized acknowledgement of what that chart attempts to convey. That every outlet has some level of leaning and some level of fact vs opinion.

Fake news is much more insidious in that it attempts to distort singular facts into a false narrative. It puts a facade of journalistic integrity while pushing a dogmatic underlying message

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think its wrong to conflate fake news with media bias. There are examples of both occurring more frequently.

Media bias is more or less a generalized acknowledgement of what that chart attempts to convey. That every outlet has some level of leaning and some level of fact vs opinion.

Fake news is much more insidious in that it attempts to distort singular facts into a false narrative. It puts a facade of journalistic integrity while pushing a dogmatic underlying message

I agree, but the problem is we have a President who liberally uses the term fake news for anything he disagrees with, or for any news outlet that doesn’t bow to him. He routinely dismisses CNN as fake news. I think that’s a problem.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think CNN specifically has taken a deep dive in credibility in their reporting during Trump's presidency, basically fulfilling the role that Trump created for them

Originally Posted by MTK

I agree, but the problem is we have a President who liberally uses the term fake news for anything he disagrees with, or for any news outlet that doesn’t bow to him. He routinely dismisses CNN as fake news. I think that’s a problem.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

I agree, but the problem is we have a President who liberally uses the term fake news for anything he disagrees with, or for any news outlet that doesn’t bow to him. He routinely dismisses CNN as fake news. I think that’s a problem.

2 Question, what’s your expectations for CNN? And if Hillary would have won the election, the topic of Russia meddling in elections....would it even be covered?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

2 Question, what’s your expectations for CNN? And if Hillary would have won the election, the topic of Russia meddling in elections....would it even be covered?

Sorry but CNN is not fake news. Do they lean liberal? Sure. Do they fabricate stories? No.

And they’re nowhere near in matching the toxicity of FOX during Obama’s tenure.

[MTK]

Personally I've always gone to NPR, WSJ, and BBC to find some balance. I've generally found it difficult to stay interested in the news since Trump was elected.

[Chico23231]

If u think that’s a good chart for CNN...wow

I think the high level of reporting facts based on unnamed sources is a shift in journalism standards over the last ten years is a move in the wrong direction

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If u think that’s a good chart for CNN...wow

I think the high level of reporting facts based on unnamed sources is a shift in journalism standards over the last ten years is a move in the wrong direction

It's open for debate Chico, as are all opinion based pieces.

As it is, I rarely read and never watch CNN so I have to go by your opinion that CNN is published by the devil and other's opinions on it.

As for unnamed sources, I understand your viewpoint but I also understand that if a source would like to keep their job (aka the reason why they can be a source in the first place) at a high level of gov't it's probably for the best imo. I know there are exceptions but I also believe most sources are vetted and/or confirmed before they start publishing info, and if they aren't they could at least include a disclaimer to state otherwise. And I also acknowledge it's an imperfect system where occasionally unconfirmed rumors get published and usually end up being retracted later with 1/10 the views the original publication got.