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Old 12-14-2005, 06:18 PM   #1
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

I have to agre with Offiss this ain't a conspiricity theory of no sort Williams plays the best players dispite his name or if his a first round pick ( Rogers ) all players have to prove they belong in his scheme and LaVar does a lot of free style for Williams liking he might make some great plays but also give away a lot of costly big one being the gates that everyone has called an example anyway his a diference maker and help pump up the defense the D changed 180 after he came back they played with more fierce .
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:22 PM   #2
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

How does benching a key player satisfy Snyder? Even if Snyder wanted it, I don't think Gibbs and/or Williams would have agreed to it. They all want to win games (including Snyder), and having LaVar playing gives us a better chance. I believe LaVar didn't play because he wasn't 100% healthy from his surgery. Williams hinted few times, that he didn't practice full-speed. Later on, even LaVar admitted that when he watched some films on him, he wasn't running full-speed.

Also, Arrington failing to cover Gates.....not too many players can cover Gates on consistent basis. Besides, ability to drop back and cover was never Arrington's strong points.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:47 PM   #3
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

(lol, and eyes rolling)

This is another Wash DC conspiracy theory. The team and Arrington settled it, and for a lot less than the $8M. Part of the reason was Arrington was not in top shape from his injuries, hence didn't have a spectacular camp. Another is that the other LBs were doing quite good. Another was that he freelanced too much and apparently cost us big yards on occasion, which apparently PO'd the coaches.

Finally, the negativity he had with his contract and his blaming the francise for his injuries etc did not sit well with the coaching staff. 'Me first' attitudes and Joe Gibbs have never mixed, folks, and that's why we shouldn't see TO in a Skins uniform (!!!). I doubt he was in the right frame of mind to listen to his coaches back then.

Now and on to a 10-6 year!
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:48 PM   #4
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

Well repent your sins, give up all your material possessions. The apocalypse is upon us, I agree with Offiss...to an extent.

I don't believe that LaVar "stinks" or is extremely overrated. Just that the coaches were trying to make him a better player. Arrington has needed something like this to reign him in. He's a great athlete but someone needed to tell him no basically and remind him that it's not all about being the best athlete out there.

I'm not saying Arrington is Michael Jordan, but they're sort of similar situations. Granted, he was never benched but MJ had to learn to play within the triangle and trust his teammates-Pippen, Kerr, Paxson-to take and make the big shots sometimes. He had to decide does he want to be remembered as a great player or as a champion.

So in summary. No conspiracy, Offiss is right, swarm of locusts, fire and brimstone.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:04 PM   #5
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

Sorry, I don't buy that Snyder has any say in who this staff plays and who they don't.

LaVar wasn't 100% healthy early in the season despite what he thought, and he wasn't preparing himself or practicing as hard as he should have been, and he's since admited as much.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:21 PM   #6
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

I think that source picked and matched stories about Coles and Sydner and Wizard of Oz and Pinnochio.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:26 PM   #7
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

I said this back when we were actually talking about it... If snyder can tell coles he'll make his ass sit and watch, what make you think he'll be any different with Arrington?

For all of those who say "Gibbs wouldn't play into this, bla, bla, bla" Snyder pays his check too! So what Joe gonna do say no to the guy thats paying him? I don't think so
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:39 AM   #8
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

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I said this back when we were actually talking about it... If snyder can tell coles he'll make his ass sit and watch, what make you think he'll be any different with Arrington?

For all of those who say "Gibbs wouldn't play into this, bla, bla, bla" Snyder pays his check too! So what Joe gonna do say no to the guy thats paying him? I don't think so
Sure Snyder talked a bunch of trash, but did it actually happen?

No, because he was just talking out of his ass.

Do you really think Gibbs would go for crap like that? An owner telling him who he can and can't play?

He wouldn't have come back to deal with an owner like that.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:57 AM   #9
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

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This was very interesting news that I thought should be shared with my fellow Skins fans. We all remember back in the early weeks of the season when LaVar Arrington was riding the bench and all the rumors of why he was not playing were flying around. Well I got some interesting news recently. I was attending my family reunion last weekend and talking Redskins with one of my distant realtives. He is employed by Washington based radio station WTOP. He was telling me that some of the sports guys around the station were talking about the real reason LaVar wasn't playing. If you think back to the offseason the was a big dispute between LaVar and Dan Snyder over like 8 million that LaVar was supposedly owed. This dispute went to arbritation and LaVar ended up being awarded the money. Well suppoedly Dan Snyder was not to pleased with this decision and told Joe Gibbs that he had to bench LaVar for a few weeks. This story seems to fit and would make sense if Snyder was really pissed about the decision. Also the source which this comes from is a reliable one in WTOP. This is one scenario that may never be proven since Snyder would do his best to cover this up. I think this is an interesting topic to discuss so.....Discuss.
Thats crazy.....why would risk us missing the playoff's over money that not his....
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:25 AM   #10
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

I don't think this is accurate. First of all, LaVar did not get his money. He claimed the Skins owed him another $6.5 million bonus that was no where in the contract and wasn't even in the rough drafts of the contract. LaVar didn't have a leg to stand on in arbitration according to most of the things I have read. The Skins threw him a bone by altering a couple of provisions of his contract including added incentives, but in the end LaVar came nowhere close to receiving an additional $6.5 million bonus.
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:27 PM   #11
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

You're right there is no comparing them.

LaVar has been to Pro Bowls and proven himself to be a playmaker in this league.

Ramsey hasn't proven anything, and that's my point. Yet you somehow think he's a better QB than Brunell based on what very little you've seen from him.

Your conclusion that Ramsey is a better QB is based on hypotheticals and what ifs. At least our opinions of LaVar are based on solid numbers, Pro Bowls, etc.

I'm officially done hijacking this thread, sorry guys.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:37 PM   #12
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

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If you think back to the offseason the was a big dispute between LaVar and Dan Snyder over like 8 million that LaVar was supposedly owed. This dispute went to arbritation and LaVar ended up being awarded the money. .....Discuss.
Some Corrections are due:

1. The amount in dispute was $6million, not $8million. However, you did say "like $8m so let's skip past the measly $2m).

2. He didn't get the money awarded by arbitration or otherwise.


They settled this.

He has the chance to be a free agent earlier than originally called for in the original contract.

He has some incentives that are possible, a few years in the future.

They couldn't retroactively give him the $6m because of the salary cap limitations. So, since you are wrong about the two most important facts, I wouldn't put too much stock in your hearsay based conclusion.

Let's remember, this came up because LaVar's attorney forgot the basic rule of "Read The Contract".


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Old 12-15-2005, 08:30 PM   #13
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

BSB, you must be getting soft in your old age. You'd think you would add at LEAST a few more welcome smileys.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:16 AM   #14
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

BigSkinBauer and company who told me i was crazy before the Cardinals game about Lavar's injury? guess what, he didnt even practice on Thursday and had "no comment" about his status for Sunday.....
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:19 AM   #15
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Re: New Reason behind LaVar Arrington not playing early season!!

Because of the weather quite a few guys who are nursing injuries didn't practice, and the theme of the injury situations around Redskins Park lately seems to be "no comment".
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