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Old 10-02-2018, 10:26 AM   #1
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I agree with this IF you take partisanship out of it.


Fact is there should be term limits across the spectrum. If anyone can explain to me how Sen McCain, with all due respect to his service through out his life, was still an active senator when he wasn't able to physically attend Senate for a year. There should be term limits and age limits for Congress, the President, and SC.

You can make it 18 year limit for Senators/Representatives, and 82 for all positions of government.

This is incredible:https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-in...n-history/175/


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46 of the 100 Senators will have served two or more terms at the conclusion of the 115th Congress.
There are currently 32 senators who've already served more than two terms in office and an additional 14 senators who will complete their second term at the end of this Congress. Of the 46 senators, 23 are Democrats, 22 are Republicans, and one is an Independent.
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:57 PM   #2
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I agree with this IF you take partisanship out of it.


Fact is there should be term limits across the spectrum. If anyone can explain to me how Sen McCain, with all due respect to his service through out his life, was still an active senator when he wasn't able to physically attend Senate for a year. There should be term limits and age limits for Congress, the President, and SC.

You can make it 18 year limit for Senators/Representatives, and 82 for all positions of government.

This is incredible:https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-in...n-history/175/

We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:32 PM   #3
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We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics.
lol, I don't remember. I wonder if the states could get enough votes to pass a constitutional amendment. I would think all the state politicians would love the chance to run for federal office as the term limits kicked in. I bet it would be grandfathered(literally) though, so we really wouldn't see the change for a decade at least.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:46 PM   #4
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We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics.
We all agreed!
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:37 AM   #5
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back to the winning,
Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal

Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required.

On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across the spectrum of polls notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news.
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back to the winning,
Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal

Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required.

On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across the spectrum of polls notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news.
Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
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Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
It's likely optics.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:29 AM   #8
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Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/

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The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/
Someone might be criticizing it, but it ain't me. I worked retail for 2 years coming out of high school, have nothing but sympathy for those Amazon workers that literally don't even get time to take a bathroom break.

Bezos has had a lot of criticism coming his way for how much he's earning an hour while his workers need food stamps, this is a good step in the right direction. Yearly cost-of-living raises for his workers would look good too.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:52 PM   #10
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The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/
You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...ax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:21 PM   #11
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You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...ax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...son/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a...s-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/targ...ay-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.
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To any democrats/liberals in this thread, what are like the top 3-5 policies/ideals/laws/etc. that are the most important to you? I mean this seriously. I think we live in such an us vs. them/take no prisoners world that actual helpful discussions are harder and harder to have. I'd imagine we all have a lot more in common than not, just have different ideas of how to achieve them.
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To any democrats/liberals in this thread, what are like the top 3-5 policies/ideals/laws/etc. that are the most important to you? I mean this seriously. I think we live in such an us vs. them/take no prisoners world that actual helpful discussions are harder and harder to have. I'd imagine we all have a lot more in common than not, just have different ideas of how to achieve them.
First like it or not I am a registered Republican.I'll take a shot

1) Healthcare for everyone . ACA you don't just dump it it,you fix what is wrong with it and you move on .
2)Social Security ,it's a flawed system but you don't fuck with it till you have a better system in place.
3) Welfare ,it's needed but again it's time to fix it .People should work for their money
4) We need to be the Big Player again Fuck Russia ,Fuck China ..this is a World economy but and American company should take care of it's American workers and if it won't, YES, the goverment should make them.
5) Our Military ,it is the best in the World ! We need to take better care of current and former Soldiers .
6) Education ,someone tell me why the first cuts made are always Education

7) Term limits ,including the SCOTUS

I'm sure with more time I can think of others things and this list is not in order of importance either ,just a random list to start.


Okay ,rip me apart!
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:26 PM   #14
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First like it or not I am a registered Republican.I'll take a shot

1) Healthcare for everyone . ACA you don't just dump it it,you fix what is wrong with it and you move on .
2)Social Security ,it's a flawed system but you don't fuck with it till you have a better system in place.
3) Welfare ,it's needed but again it's time to fix it .People should work for their money
4) We need to be the Big Player again Fuck Russia ,Fuck China ..this is a World economy but and American company should take care of it's American workers and if it won't, YES, the goverment should make them.
5) Our Military ,it is the best in the World ! We need to take better care of current and former Soldiers .
6) Education ,someone tell me why the first cuts made are always Education

7) Term limits ,including the SCOTUS

I'm sure with more time I can think of others things and this list is not in order of importance either ,just a random list to start.


Okay ,rip me apart!
What, no one else?
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