Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

CNN wasn't the only news outlet with egg on their face.

That's Fox News. We expect them to be inaccurate.

[12thMan]

Dewey defeats Truman.

[That Guy]

well, if you paid for 100% of preventitive care and nothing for those that failed to get free preventitive care...

like say you got your yearly cancer screening, you're more likely to catch it early and potentially save a million in costs by not waiting till late stage onset. or do some kind of cost share to prevent people from taking $5mill surgery when 50k surgery would be 95% as effective.

it is a bit surprising just based on how loudly people said it'd fail at court, but I guess it's for real now. at least until someone tries another appeal.

[CrazyCanuck]

Come and get em boys and girls!!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, if you paid for 100% of preventitive care and nothing for those that failed to get free preventitive care...

like say you got your yearly cancer screening, you're more likely to catch it early and potentially save a million in costs by not waiting till late stage onset. or do some kind of cost share to prevent people from taking $5mill surgery when 50k surgery would be 95% as effective.

it is a bit surprising just based on how loudly people said it'd fail at court, but I guess it's for real now. at least until someone tries another appeal.

Repeal vote scheduled for July 9th, per Eric Cantor. Symbolic vote.

[Giantone]

I love it!!!!!!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

and the right is angry:
DNC Operative: "It's Constitutional B-----s" - Fox News

Roberts may have just put the nails in Obama's coffin. Those who oppose Obamacare and the individual mandate, along with those who oppose the HHS manadate on religious institutions, have no choice but to vote against Obama and the Dems so the law is ultimately repealed or ammended.

The numbers against all or parts of Obamacare are significant:

Times/CBS Poll: 68% Against Obamacare

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

Moral of the story will be.....don't spike the ball in the second quarter....payback's a b***h.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Roberts may have just put the nails in Obama's coffin. Those who oppose Obamacare and the individual mandate, along with those who oppose the HHS manadate on religious institutions, have no choice but to vote against Obama and the Dems so the law is ultimately repealed or ammended.

Wait, so these people are now going to go out and vote for the guy who originated this health care system?


Wouldn't surprise me people are that idiotic. DAMN YOU OBAMA FOR YOUR OBAMACARE! JUST FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO ELECT THE GUY WHO CREATED THE VERY SYSTEM YOU IMPLEMENTED!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Wait, so these people are now going to go out and vote for the guy who originated this health care system?


Wouldn't surprise me people are that idiotic. DAMN YOU OBAMA FOR YOUR OBAMACARE! JUST FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO ELECT THE GUY WHO CREATED THE VERY SYSTEM YOU IMPLEMENTED!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!

Yeah, I saw Romney speaking against the ACA today and laughed out loud. It's HIS freaking system!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Wait, so these people are now going to go out and vote for the guy who originated this health care system?


Wouldn't surprise me people are that idiotic. DAMN YOU OBAMA FOR YOUR OBAMACARE! JUST FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO ELECT THE GUY WHO CREATED THE VERY SYSTEM YOU IMPLEMENTED!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!

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[Giantone]

Half the GOP is screaming the other half are trying to find the coolaid ,facts are this will help people....don't like it come up with something better.People will now go to the doctors to prvent from getting sick ...not waiting till it's to late,people with spouse's can now stay at home to care for a wife ...or get another job not worring weather their husband or wife will be coverd,....oh yeah and the cost will come down for insurance.......,but Obama...is the devil,if you don't like ....tuff.:cool-smil

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Wait, so these people are now going to go out and vote for the guy who originated this health care system?


Wouldn't surprise me people are that idiotic. DAMN YOU OBAMA FOR YOUR OBAMACARE! JUST FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO ELECT THE GUY WHO CREATED THE VERY SYSTEM YOU IMPLEMENTED!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

Sammy you say facts yet you posted a link to Romney web page.....oh I'm sure that is full of facts.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

Interesting stuff on the Romney vetoes, Sammy. I didn't know about them. Thanks for that.

The Romneycare vs. Obamacare link is less helpful as it oversimplifies things in my eyes. For example, the "bipartisan support" part when the legislature was 87% Democrat. That's not exactly the same "bipartisan" reality that one finds on Capitol Hill.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

You oversimplified my statement in which I oversimplified. I have never insinuated that because you don't agree with me, it means you are a idiot. I said,(or implied rather) that if you aren't going to vote for Obama based on the national healthcare program, but are planning on voting for Romney, who is the founder of such program, it's pretty idiotic.

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

You might as well have linked me to FOX News Sammy. You expect me to believe he's going to put ANYTHING remotely bad on his major website? No, he's going to slant it to make it look like he's the guy you should be voting for. Take this for example.



Strong bipartisan support? Is that why they overrode his vetoes? Also, is he really going to compare the state run government bipartisan levels to that on the national level? ....lol I think we all know the GOP goes out of it's way to stonewall anybody not in their group. Why? So they can point a finger come next election and SAY LOOK!! HE"S DONE NOTHING!




Look at the word play here. "A mere modest 1% of the state budget". Notice he doesn't use overall numbers like he did with the national bill (500 BILLION). Also, isn't cutting Medicare by 500 billion a good thing to you GOPers?



LOOK GUYS! IT"S INTENDED AS A SOCIALISM!!! Who cares how long the bill was? You mean to tell me that 70 page bill is more detailed than that 2,074 bill? Doubt it. I'm willing to bet you that everything on the right side could be applied on the left side as well, but you know they aren't going to put that in. The bill was probably so long because it ended up with billions in pork.
In health bill, billions for parks, paths - The Boston Globe


As far as your point #6, lets look at what amendments he vetoed.

Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including a $295-per-person fee on businesses with 11 employees or more that do not provide health insurance.[47][48] Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental and eyeglass benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.[49][50] However, the state legislature overrode all of the vetoes.[51]
Governorship of Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Puhleease. Give a friggin break Sammy. For all intents and purposes, the Obamacare and Romneycare are THE SAME THING. You can nickle and dime the few discrepancies, but a spade is still a spade bro.