How to spend our money?

[musicmaster45]

I agree with Lotus' idea, except instead my corner idea is we get Ike Taylor. Ike would bring a physicality to the defense and he come from the defense were trying to emulate in Pittsburgh.

[GTripp0012]

I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.

Very interesting post,

I'd take about half the guys you wrote down, yet year after year the redskins go after about half the guys I want and half the guys I don't want so maybe you're on to something here. I bolded the players which I agree with you we should get/look at in FA.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was fidgeting around with this the other day just to see how far cap dollars would go, so that this could be made into a blog post.

Here's what I actually wrote down:

QB Caleb Hanie (2011 cap: $1.4 mil)
QB Rex Grossman (2011 cap: $1.0 mil) (non-guaranteed)
RB Jerious Norwood (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
FB Vonta Leach (2011 cap: $1 mil)
RG Mike Brisiel (2011 cap: $.9 mil)
RT Ryan Harris (2011 cap: $1.6 mil)
NT Alan Branch (2011 cap: $.6 mil)
DE Cullen Jenkins (2011 cap: $2.5 mil)
LB Chris Wilson (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
LB Matt Roth (2011 cap: $1.3 mil)
LB HB Blades (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB William Gay (2011 cap: $.7 mil)
CB Philip Buchanon (2011 cap: $1 mil)
S Reed Doughty (2011 cap ($.9 mil)

Total cap money spent on UFA $13.8 million
Players added: 14

If you want to pencil in Nnamdi, you're going to have to put away about $7 million of 2011 cap space to do so. That would seem to make the Bucs the only team that is actually "likely" to get him. The Raiders and Cowboys are going to be hard pressed to match a best offer, the Lions feel like they're going to be priced out of the market for him, the Texans are going hard after him but if it comes down to best offer, Tampa almost certainly can beat it.

Gtripp, I think your estimates are way off. Next year veterans are slated to make more than ever due to the raised salary floor, salary cap increase, the lowered rookie wage scale, and the shortened time to sign veterans will raise the price in a battle.

Keeping in mind that this years numbers contracts should be significantly larger than in the past, lets take a sample of veteran contracts from last year to compare to.

Kemo made 3.2, Rabach made 2.4, Hicks made 1.8, Golston made 1.8 (tendered), Heyer made 1.7, Wilson made 1.7, Buchanon made 1.5, Montgomery made 1.2, Sellers made 1.1, Daniels made 0.9, and Alexander made 0.9.

I don't see very many of your numbers being accurate considering many of the players you mentioned were significantly more talented than the players I just mentioned, and are making less in their first year of their contract (compare cullen jenkins 1st year of 2.5 to kemos 1st year of 3.2) when they are more talented, which demand a higher price tag, and are participating in a market which will demand significantly higher contracts for veterans.

Look at what comparable veterans have made in the past to the players you mentioned in their first year. Add a minimum of a million on to that and that is what that should be a more accurate indication of what their 2011 cap number should be.

Not to mention we need to hit the salary floor also.

P.S. There is no way Nnamdi is making 7 mil in any year of his contract. I've heard reports that he will be making 18 mil a year, which even if that is not true, it should still be way too high for him to make 7 mil in any year of his contract.

[NC_Skins]

Fletcher is a rare exception. Buffalo did the right thing letting Fletcher go. More often or not, you'll get burned 8 times out of 10 if you signed a 32 year old ILB to a big money contract. Not good odds and generally not a smart thing to do. It's just fortunate for us that the guy has played his heart out, which is probably why he's lasted as long as he has. Posluszny on the other hand is 26 years old. You can't compare the two.

[musicmaster45]

Posluszny would be a fantastic player i think it would be adding more fire to the great flame our line backing core will be. I would be uber ecstatic. With Ike Taylor Brian Membeane and cullen Jenkins our D will be scary

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Posluszny would be a fantastic player i think it would be adding more fire to the great flame our line backing core will be. I would be uber ecstatic. With Ike Taylor Brian Membeane and cullen Jenkins our D will be scary

Pos will not be a redskin, he wants to be back in Buffalo where he's the star on a bad team, or in a 4-3 defense like the Eagles, Jags, or Giants. Membane is a 4-3 DT, not a NT, and Seattle wants to resign him. He played NT in college but is better suited for the 4-3.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Pos will not be a redskin, he wants to be back in Buffalo where he's the star on a bad team, or in a 4-3 defense like the Eagles, Jags, or Giants. Membane is a 4-3 DT, not a NT, and Seattle wants to resign him. He played NT in college but is better suited for the 4-3.

Seattle plays an overshifted 4-3 a lot which means that Mebane has essentially played NFL nose tackle a lot and done it well. If Seattle doesn't want him, he would fit quite well with us.

[musicmaster45]

Pos might not have the option with Buffalo might not be able to afford him

[musicmaster45]

Hey also Mark Herzlich the undrafted rookie who was once an All American at Boston College, would be a great option that is cheap and the kid has a ton of heart after his cancer stint. He would be fantastic

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Hey also Mark Herzlich the undrafted rookie who was once an All American at Boston College, would be a great option that is cheap and the kid has a ton of heart after his cancer stint. He would be fantastic

I think he'd be good had he of not had a metal rod placed in his leg. The reason he fell was because of the cancer effecting his cutting and speed. Sorry but I don't think he'll pan out.

[musicmaster45]

whats the harm in signing one undrafted free agent who has question marks? He was once amazing and he will try like crazy to get better. No harm if he doesnt pan out and we cut him.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

whats the harm in signing one undrafted free agent who has question marks? He was once amazing and he will try like crazy to get better. No harm if he doesnt pan out and we cut him.

NONE!
bring him to camp and let HIM prove what he can or cannot accomplish...........

[musicmaster45]

Thanks Hog1 for backing me up. and from what i've heard he has improved more and more since his fall from cancer

[MTK]

Herzlich will get a shot somewhere. Not sure if he fits as a 3-4 LB though.