Mike Singletary Fired

[MTK]

Shanahan signed a 5 year deal, I expect he will be here for at least that long. I don't think he came back for a quick hitter.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shanahan signed a 5 year deal, I expect he will be here for at least that long. I don't think he came back for a quick hitter.

I still say if things don't really turn around in the next two seasons Shanny is gone come Jan 1 2013. I say that because the fans are getting to the point that Lions fans were under Matt Millen. This season Mike gets a pass as he inherited a bad situation. Next year he will get somewhat of a pass, as well, but if 2012 is another crappy season fans are going to stay home or show up with bags on their heads, etc. Seriously these NFL ticket prices are a ripoff considering you are watching medicore football with the exception of a few elite teams that you can count on one hand. The FO needs to get a real plan with regards to building the team with younger players and drafting a lot smarter. If Snyder wants to drop a load of dough, he should get the best scouts in the game or just enlarge the # of scouts to evaluate potential draftees, young FAs and UFAs so we can find some real gems like Torain, AA, etc. If our FO drafts smart, doesn't give up any picks, and uses it to address needs of the team, I will rescind my 2013 prediction, but if the same silly crap occurs, I will hold to it. Just too much stupid shit thus far from the Mike and Bruce show so far for me to drink any kool aid.

[Jontrem]

Shanahan better be here for the entire 5 years. I really cant take any more "change" we need some consistency more than anything else.

[MTK]

Gibbs was under .500 for his 2nd stint here, and DS would have let him continue on and heck he wanted to sign him on for an extension.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gibbs was under .500 for his 2nd stint here, and DS would have let him continue on and heck he wanted to sign him on for an extension.

Joe Gibbs is the one guy that DS could not and would not fire. I don't think Shanahan has that type of leash. But I think he gets 3 years.

[DIEHARD1980]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Joe Gibbs is the one guy that DS could not and would not fire. I don't think Shanahan has that type of leash. But I think he gets 3 years.

That is the truest statement of all, There is no way DS could ever fire Gibbs. He is a legend in these parts like Joe Paterno is at Penn State.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gibbs was under .500 for his 2nd stint here, and DS would have let him continue on and heck he wanted to sign him on for an extension.

To be fair, Gibbs II in just his second season went 10-6 and won a PLAYOFF game. In ten really long years 2000-2010 only Gibbs has taken us to the playoffs, and he did it twice in 4 years.
To be fair to Shanahan, we have to give Shanahan 3 to 4 years to really give him a fair chance to turn us around.
I am not impatient with Shanahan, give him time.
My only disappointment up to know with Shanahan is switching to 3-4 defense which set us even further back and created even more holes to fill on our roster. As if we did not already have a ton of holes to fill.
If you are going to do that, then commit to a total re-build and do not send valuable draft picks for an old veteran QB. Those two decision directly contradict themselves and was really poor planning.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

To be fair, Gibbs II in just his second season went 10-6 and won a PLAYOFF game. In ten really long years 2000-2010 only Gibbs has taken us to the playoffs, and he did it twice in 4 years.
To be fair to Shanahan, we have to give Shanahan 3 to 4 years to really give him a fair chance to turn us around.
I am not impatient with Shanahan, give him time.
My only disappointment up to know with Shanahan is switching to 3-4 defense which set us even further back and created even more holes to fill on our roster. As if we did not already have a ton of holes to fill.
If you are going to do that, then commit to a total re-build and do not send valuable draft picks for an old veteran QB. Those two decision directly contradict themselves and was really poor planning.

How are we to know we wouldn't have been in the exact same position if they were still using the 4-3?

Couldn't it be that 11 straight years of not picking ANY defensive linemen in the first 4 rounds of the NFL draft finally caught up to us? That years and years of relying on free agent castoffs and late-round longshots up front brought us to where we are right now defensively?

[Dread-Skin]

Tough situations for Singletary to inherit but he made a good run lack of QB play really hurt but that team is underachieving they are young and likely to make it a run for the division nest year b/c Hasselback isnt getting any younger and the cards are dismantling just leaves Stl.

[MTK]

Singletary should consider the college game | ProFootballTalk

[MonkFan4Life]

Do they really ? So say they dump McNabb and draft a QB is that a splash or building for the future ? Appreciate the losses, the wins will mean much more. I don't think Mike S. or our next HC Kyle S. will be going anywhere anytime soon and I'm completely fine with that. I've got nothing but time honestly. I'll see a winner here again. And why should Beck who has the extension see more than Grossman ? If I dump McNabb then I have Grossman until my new guy is ready, or I know I'll keep Grossman as my #2. And Beck is here, so I can wait on him.

Singletary's personality did him in IMO, besides the coaches that are out there. Gruden, Cowher, Harbaugh at Stanford. You think the 49ers aren't lookinf for a splash to get things energized on the West Coast ? Probably not because they don't have Snyder running the team correct ?

[DIEHARD1980]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Do they really ? So say they dump McNabb and draft a QB is that a splash or building for the future ? Appreciate the losses, the wins will mean much more. I don't think Mike S. or our next HC Kyle S. will be going anywhere anytime soon and I'm completely fine with that. I've got nothing but time honestly. I'll see a winner here again. And why should Beck who has the extension see more than Grossman ? If I dump McNabb then I have Grossman until my new guy is ready, or I know I'll keep Grossman as my #2. And Beck is here, so I can wait on him.

Singletary's personality did him in IMO, besides the coaches that are out there. Gruden, Cowher, Harbaugh at Stanford. You think the 49ers aren't lookinf for a splash to get things energized on the West Coast ? Probably not because they don't have Snyder running the team correct ?

Who would you rather help mold a young QB, Mcnabb or Grossman?? And to answer your Grossman question, We know what Grossman can do, its nothing different from what he has done through his whole career. Atleast by seeing what Beck can do against a Team like the Giants who are still fighting for a playoff spot can really see where he is at.

[MonkFan4Life]

I would rather my coach do it which would be happening. I really don't see McNabb leaving so you have my answer to the grooming questiong but Grossman knows the system so I think he could provide a little help. Could he tell me how to be elite ? Probably not, but he sure as hell can tell me where the hot read is. You have to undertand the system, Rex looks like he does. If McNabb returns then he should have a better undertanding of the system Kyle is running as well as everyone else on this teams offense.

As far as putting Beck up against the Giants ? It all depends on who the coaches throw out there, I don't give two shits who plays. I want to see a win since we won't have a chance to get AJ. Green.

[mlmpetert]

Ive only watched a couple san fran games since Mike Singletary took over, but every game i saw i was like damn Singletary sucks as a coach. He had a lot of sportscenter clips and each time he said something he left me with the impression he was in way over his head with coaching pro players. He is the type of guy that sounds like he could do good as a college coach.

[DM72]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Ive only watched a couple san fran games since Mike Singletary took over, but every game i saw i was like damn Singletary sucks as a coach. He had a lot of sportscenter clips and each time he said something he left me with the impression he was in way over his head with coaching pro players. He is the type of guy that sounds like he could do good as a college coach.

Plus, it was really getting old watching him feud with one of his players. I personally lost a little respect for Singletary when he immediately put Crabtree in the starting lineup his rookie season after a lengthy holdout.