Devin Thomas kick returns??

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Rock had a KO return for a TD in 2006, against the Cowboys I believe

it was, it was a night game too, maybe mnf. i was waiting tables that night at champps. i had a table of 10-12 redskins fans, it was awesome. they tried to order two bottles of cristal when he took it to the house. i was like, homie, this is champps... and he shouted back "than your two most expensive bottles!!!" i'm pretty sure we lost that game but i made over $300 off that table alone. God bless redskins fans, amen

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Rock had a KO return for a TD in 2006, against the Cowboys I believe

1 shining KO return for a TD. But you know what. Rock is all pro. All american. Pro bowl material. So lets keep him like the did the other year and keep our same running backs. So when one or two of them goes down we can bring someone in off the wire..like duckett or Shaun Alexander. Because KO returns are so much more important than a back up running back. So go back to that time. When Portis was hurt and Betts was too and we had tip toe burgular in the backfield. Where was Rock? Oh he was too busy returning kicks? So we brought in a bum to be our running back.

Do you get it now. If we have a running back. That can spell Portis or Betts we should take him. Devin can return kicks or share duties with. Moss, Betts, ARE, etc.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

1 shining KO return for a TD. But you know what. Rock is all pro. All american. Pro bowl material. So lets keep him like the did the other year and keep our same running backs. So when one or two of them goes down we can bring someone in off the wire..like duckett or Shaun Alexander. Because KO returns are so much more important than a back up running back. So go back to that time. When Portis was hurt and Betts was too and we had tip toe burgular in the backfield. Where was Rock? Oh he was too busy returning kicks? So we brought in a bum to be our running back.

Do you get it now. If we have a running back. That can spell Portis or Betts we should take him. Devin can return kicks or share duties with. Moss, Betts, ARE, etc.

i don't understand what point you are trying to make, how was rock too busy returning kicks? you mean playing special teams? he plays a lot of special teams, sure, but he's not a radical rb. alexander didn't cramp his pants. but he didn't biff it either. i don't understand where all these guys who try out in the pre season go. why didn't we call on mason? or dork nordic for that matter?

[CRedskinsRule]

Asking a question;

Which is more important on Kickoff returns:

1) consistency - knowing you will nearly always start at the 20 yardline or better

or

2) Homerun potential.

On Punt returns, I think you have to go with Homerun potential, simply because, you never know where the starting point will be, so you always want someone who can take it all the way. Do you see Kickoffs the same way, or is it better to know you will always get it out of the shadow of your own endzone?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Asking a question;

Which is more important on Kickoff returns:

1) consistency - knowing you will nearly always start at the 20 yardline or better

or

2) Homerun potential.

On Punt returns, I think you have to go with Homerun potential, simply because, you never know where the starting point will be, so you always want someone who can take it all the way. Do you see Kickoffs the same way, or is it better to know you will always get it out of the shadow of your own endzone?

Even Hester gets caught on the 5, 10, 15 every now and again... all of the great returners do. You give it to the guy that might break it unless you're getting to the 35-40 every time; 20-30 every time is good but Rock usually goes down on first impact and doesn't do well at avoiding impact. To me that speaks 1) for Rock's ability to get going in a line ASAP and 2) KR blocking; now if only our punt return unit could block like that.

[MTK]

You ever read a thread and just say huh?

Huh?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You ever read a thread and just say huh?

Huh?

If so I usually try my hand at pretentiousness

[joethiesmanfan]

Mason was in Cincy where he got to play RB during the season but did not nothing.

[PennSkinsFan]

You know what, at this point, you have to get something out of Thomas, so why not try it. Might be all you get.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

You know what, at this point, you have to get something out of Thomas, so why not try it. Might be all you get.

Make him a RB on a few plays...especially if Rock is out for the next several weeks. Not really kidding here. Thomas' athleticism is pretty special, he just hasn't become a legit WR yet. But with the ball in his hands he's still dangerous...so find a way to get him a few touches anyway.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Make him a RB on a few plays...especially if Rock is out for the next several weeks. Not really kidding here. Thomas' athleticism is pretty special, he just hasn't become a legit WR yet. But with the ball in his hands he's still dangerous...so find a way to get him a few touches anyway.

I really like this idea. As long as you have his athleticism, you might as well take advantage of it. Just a crack toss or two would add a wild-cat like wrinkle to the offense, without adding the wild-cat that Zorn hates.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Make him a RB on a few plays...especially if Rock is out for the next several weeks. Not really kidding here. Thomas' athleticism is pretty special, he just hasn't become a legit WR yet. But with the ball in his hands he's still dangerous...so find a way to get him a few touches anyway.

He looked great on that reverse he scored on last season.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Its not a rock bashing thread at all. It does make total sense. I will break it down. Rock is a solid player. But he is not that versatile. He has a decent punt return average and returned one in 96. But last year when we needed someone to come in when Betts and Portis were injured. He didn't step up. We picked up tip toe burgular. Whether it is Mason or another RB. We need to find a third running back that has upside and can be there as an additional weapon. If we have say..5 WRs and Devin has blazing speed. Why not use Devin. If Devin doesn't get into a rhythm in these last 2 preseason games he might slip to the 3rd 4th or maybe even fifth WR spot (if Kelly continues to be solid and show his injury is a nonfactor and if Mitchell makes the squad). I think for the most part all other WRs have been solid as far as the top 5. If this is the case. Then he is perfect candidate for the returns. Rock as our third running back is a KR and that is his main duty on the team (special teams). Which doesn't do that well on coverage or on returns. But this same RB is not really a viable threat as a RB and doesn't have as much upside as Mason or Dorsey. Its basically a numbers game.

[dmvskinzfan08]

I didn't even know Rock was hurt. This may play into the roster decisions also. Unless someone takes his place until he gets healthy...

[dan_snyder69]

I agree with Goat, Thomas only really looked competent running the reverse for his touchdown last year, maybe we can get him more plays like that, screens, etc (where he won't have to run a route or separate from a defender which seems to be his problem.) Hopefully he catches on at receiver, but he needs more touches any way he can get them without offensive pass interference being called against him lol