2012 redskins

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.

We'll have alot of questions answered by April. You are right, you can't have 2 TO's a game and expect to win. No doubt about it. Our problem is we don't have another viable option besides sticking a rookie in there. I'm assuming we'll have one qb from the draft. If its Luck/RGIII then we might start them, if not, do you throw them in the mix right out of college? We might need Rex to start next year. He knows the offense. He'll have a better oline, better run game, and more playmakers. The TO's are frustrating, but he does know the offense very well.

You could dump Rex and sign another FA, but options are limited there too.

[skinsfan69]

If the Rams lose to SF, which will most likely hapopen, and Indy beats Jacksonville, which could happen, then the Rams have the 1st pick. That could make things very interesting for us as far as getting a QB. With a new coach, perhaps Gruden in Stl, he may want to start with Luck, which makes Bradford expendable.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If the Rams lose to SF, which will most likely hapopen, and Indy beats Jacksonville, which could happen, then the Rams have the 1st pick. That could make things very interesting for us as far as getting a QB. With a new coach, perhaps Gruden in Stl, he may want to start with Luck, which makes Bradford expendable.

I asked yesterday someone who should know and he said Gruden is not interested in the Rams job, or any job right now.

But who knows, maybe his opinion will change.

Regardless, Devaney and Spags are both probably gone and if the Rams get the first pick they can ask for a ransom for either Luck or Bradford. Keep one and add an LT (Kalil?).

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I asked yesterday someone who should know and he said Gruden is not interested in the Rams job, or any job right now.

But who knows, maybe his opinion will change.

Regardless, Devaney and Spags are both probably gone and if the Rams get the first pick they can ask for a ransom for either Luck or Bradford. Keep one and add an LT (Kalil?).

Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?

he works somewhere else. his info is good though promise.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?

Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no

SS, have you heard any plans for the secondary? D Hall back? Barnes future, is it Safety or CB? Laron?

[SBXVII]

Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.

Why would it matter? It's not like you can go watch them practice, except the few that are open in training camp.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why would it matter? It's not like you can go watch them practice, except the few that are open in training camp.

Actually your right. But VA can't get a NFL team cause Snyder wants to claim it will take away from his revenue. So no pro team for VA. They have had their home office in VA for years. DC wants the team playing in DC again, I'd be ok with that. I guess even if they decided to make the stadium their home office but I'm getting tired of Maryland wanting to take everything. They have the Ravens. Let the Redskins stay in DC or VA.

[skinsfan69]

So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So here we are, going into year 3 and we still don't have a QB. The Shanahan's have REALLY screwed up the QB situation here. Did they really think that Rex and Beck were the answers? Snyder has got to be steaming mad.

I don't think they ever thought Rex and Beck were the answers. I'm not sure they even thought McNabb was the long-term answer. I think what they thought was they loved, loved, loved Bradford but couldn't move up to #1 for him, and they liked Locker but not enough to do anything more than see if he was there at #10 last year.

So yeah they haven't gotten a QB, but they've worked on other areas of the team. This should (I'll even say will) be the offseason the Redskins get the QB they feel will be the answer for them.

I mean we're not going into year 3 yet, it's more that we're ending year 2

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think they ever thought Rex and Beck were the answers. I'm not sure they even thought McNabb was the long-term answer. I think what they thought was they loved, loved, loved Bradford but couldn't move up to #1 for him, and they liked Locker but not enough to do anything more than see if he was there at #10 last year.

So yeah they haven't gotten a QB, but they've worked on other areas of the team. This should (I'll even say will) be the offseason the Redskins get the QB they feel will be the answer for them.

I mean we're not going into year 3 yet, it's more that we're ending year 2

Thats a good summary of the QB odyssey so far imo. It is a bummer that after year 2 Shanahan and Allen still havent drafted/added their idea of a franchise QB yet. The logic is we wont really be ready to compete for a Superbowl until year 2 or 3 of a young QBs career so I think everyone is itching to get the clock rolling here.

But im glad they didnt draft a QB just to draft a one. I thought gabbert being available to us was a bounce of good luck and I would have drafted him but, now with just one season of hindsight, im glad i dont make the decisions. Shoot, I wanted to take Clausen the year before that.

Unfortunately, I feel like they have to pull the trigger this offseason. By year 4 i think shanahan needs a 10 plus win season. Im not sure Mike Shanahan can walk into year 3 of his contract without having hitched his wagon to a young potential franchise QB. I understand and appreciate his patience to get this key decision right, and that he only gets one real shot at it but at some point you gotta fire your weapon and put your fate and that of the skins in the hands of a young wide-eyed know nothing 22 year old.

[SirClintonPortis]

JC-to-McNabb was a lateral move. A foolish, costly lateral move, but still a lateral move. Had we kept JC, patience with him would be wearing very thin by now and he might have lost out to Grossman anyway, just like McNabb.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

JC-to-McNabb was a lateral move. A foolish, costly lateral move, but still a lateral move. Had we kept JC, patience with him would be wearing very thin by now and he might have lost out to Grossman anyway, just like McNabb.

I would have crapped on this comment two years ago, but watching Mike and Kyle work with these quarterbacks, I tend to think you're right. Campbell wouldn't have improved under Kyle Shanahan the way he improved under Hue Jackson. He would have just remained frustrating and have lost playing time to Rex Grossman.

Which, of course, would have been a way better course of action than we've actually gone.