The Washington Post backhands Extremeskins.com

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think it's kind of sad to take your personal vendetta against a FREAKIN' sports team out in the paper. I don't see how people, Skins fans or not, would continue to tolerate it. I mean it's the same ol' shit every week.

"Skins did this to us! Waaaaaaaaaaah!"

Get over it. The first part of healing is forgiveness. You'd THINK that Post readers would rather read something positive or objective for a change.

[cpayne5]

I thought the article was good. I don't really see it as poor journalism. If you read the article, its contrasting the Mark Brunell of last year (and the perception of him at the time), to this year's Mark Brunell.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I just think that the comment they quoted had too much agenda behind it. It's a little controversial to be putting in a large paper. When you put something like that in there, it starts stirring up controversy.

Now for the impressional people that read the Post, whenever the Skins sign someone they'll be like "Hmmm, wonder if it's because he's a Christian."

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I just think that the comment they quoted had too much agenda behind it. It's a little controversial to be putting in a large paper. When you put something like that in there, it starts stirring up controversy.

Now for the impressional people that read the Post, whenever the Skins sign someone they'll be like "Hmmm, wonder if it's because he's a Christian."

But it shows just how low Brunell was last year, as opposed to this year. He's using it for contrast, not controversy. I believe that if he used it in a story *last* year, it would have been more controversial, but to use it this year is kinda like saying "hey, moron, look where he (and Gibbs) is now".

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Oh I completely agree with comparing. Just the comment out of the THOUSANDS there were to choose from was a little bit in bad taste in my opinion.

[djnemo65]

I hope the Post doesn't decide to dig up anything I wrote about Mark Brunell

[That Guy]

good letter in response om.

[CHUBAKAH]

The war has only just started. Sad....

[Luxorreb]

If Mike Wise can make these kinds of mistakes and get paid for it by the Washington Post no less, maybe I should apply. To quote a fansite is cheap and to not read the date of the post is even worse than bush league journalism. I know we've got alot of diehard fans here who know our facts, but is it too much to ask for a writer for the Washington Post to have a little more football street cred or at the very least a journalistic, fact checking approach? What has this world come too? The end of print media, coming soon!!!

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

If Mike Wise can make these kinds of mistakes and get paid for it by the Washington Post no less, maybe I should apply. To quote a fansite is cheap and to not read the date of the post is even worse than bush league journalism. I know we've got alot of diehard fans here who know our facts, but is it too much to ask for a writer for the Washington Post to have a little more football street cred or at the very least a journalistic, fact checking approach? What has this world come too? The end of print media, coming soon!!!

Wise never said this was a recent quote. In fact, if you read the article, it's easy to see that it was said last year.

Sneet is a moron for saying it and a coward for blaming the WP for printing it.

It's probably not in ExtremeSkins best interest to get into a war with the Post. They (ES) will lose.

ExtremeSkins should take care of business at home before trying to 'take on the world'. It doesn't seem like they're really adjusting to being in the public eye very well.

[EternalEnigma21]

I saw the article, and while the quote was a little extreme (blatant pun intended) the article was okay. Honestly, it was a bit redundant... there's no one reading his article that's not well aware that there was a bit of contraversey revolving around the decision to start brunell. It was just mid-week filler, when there's nothing to report on, so he thought he'd stir things up with a radical point of view. I honestly wouldn't have responded to it, (if I were you OM) because in doing so, you're justifying something you shouldn't.

Dont get me wrong, if you felt compelled to reply, then you did it with tact, and it was well written, which is more than I can say for the writings of some of your staff, but somtimes it's better to turn a blind's eye, and take the publicity any way it comes.

Whatever numbskull posted that is more than entitled to his opinion and thats why there are message boards... So that morons like you and me can voice our opinions and views without having a degree in journalism and a job with the post.

The article about the Giants-Skins history that was in the post yesterday was much better reading material, anyway.

[-Om-]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

I saw the article, and while the quote was a little extreme (blatant pun intended) the article was okay. Honestly, it was a bit redundant... there's no one reading his article that's not well aware that there was a bit of contraversey revolving around the decision to start brunell. It was just mid-week filler, when there's nothing to report on, so he thought he'd stir things up with a radical point of view. I honestly wouldn't have responded to it, (if I were you OM) because in doing so, you're justifying something you shouldn't.

Dont get me wrong, if you felt compelled to reply, then you did it with tact, and it was well written, which is more than I can say for the writings of some of your staff, but somtimes it's better to turn a blind's eye, and take the publicity any way it comes.

Whatever numbskull posted that is more than entitled to his opinion and thats why there are message boards... So that morons like you and me can voice our opinions and views without having a degree in journalism and a job with the post.

The article about the Giants-Skins history that was in the post yesterday was much better reading material, anyway.

It wasn't about "publicity" from my perspective. As I noted later in that thread, I was responding emotionally to what I thought was a very poorly conceived and misrepresentative perspective on message board culture. Was it a waste of time? Probably ... although I'm about 99% Wise read it. And at least it made ME feel better.

Also, I was glad that the guy who posted the initial comments Wise used spoke up in that thread. It thought he handled with all the class and objectivity that Wise lacked.

Anyway. Enough of my thoughts on this old news.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm sure I don't speak for everyone here, but I do agree that criticism simply from being from ES is unwarranted. I'm not even going to speak to the camp creditial story because I definitely don't know any of the details on that subject.

I do ask that unless you know the real story, don't criticize other people just because they're from another site. We're all part of one big family: The Redskins family.

Now if you know the story behind the credentials fiasco then bombs away, but don't chastise someone just because they choose to visit our board now and then. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who frequents all three other Skins sites.

[cpayne5]

Visiting is fine and dandy, but usually when they show up the bees start buzzing. If they want to come around as fans, fine, post as a fan, not as ES reps who seemingly only want to argue (ie"dispell egregious misrepresentations").

[MTK]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Visiting is fine and dandy, but usually when they show up the bees start buzzing. If they want to come around as fans, fine, post as a fan, not as ES reps who seemingly only want to argue (ie"dispell egregious misrepresentations").

I understand the point you're making.

You don't see them posting here unless their site is somehow involved in the discussion.

I post on several boards including ES, but as a fan, not just when The Warpath's name is involved.

I guess they feel the need to put out fires right now. I really don't think it's necessary since people are going to feel one way or another regardless. Obviously they feel different.