Confirmed: Bruce Allen has been fired

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Bye Felicia!


Good times indeed. That said, Dan doesn't need to hire a coach before a GM. Let the GM handle that.

I'm secretly hoping the next GM is already lined up and gave his blessing on Rivera but for whatever reason Dan won't announce it yet.

[CRedskinsRule]

Great news. Tempered only by the history of the franchise after firing Cerrato. Snyder has to earn back the fans by bringing consistent winning professionals to the team and making sure that the organization is no longer dysfunctional.

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[Coff]

I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Coff

I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?

Trents situation was always about money and wanting a new multi-year contract with more guaranteed money. All the drama aside, Trent Williams is old, injury prone, and one drug test away from a 1 year suspension. He’s not the type of player you bring back at the kind of money he’ll demand. He’s the kind of guy you trade to clear cap space and get draft picks to improve your teams future.

Our offensive line did just fine without Trent Williams this year. Well do fine without him next year. If we bring him back, I’ll have lost any confidence in the new front office.


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[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Trents situation was always about money and wanting a new multi-year contract with more guaranteed money. All the drama aside, Trent Williams is old, injury prone, and one drug test away from a 1 year suspension. He’s not the type of player you bring back at the kind of money he’ll demand. He’s the kind of guy you trade to clear cap space and get draft picks to improve your teams future.

Our offensive line did just fine without Trent Williams this year. Well do fine without him next year. If we bring him back, I’ll have lost any confidence in the new front office.


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Count me among the few who could care less if Trent comes back. He was already on his last legs before the holdout. He was still playing well, but the injuries were piling up. Jay even said at one point over the last couple of seasons that Trent had a degenerative knee condition and would one day need a replacement. Trent made his bed and he needs to lay in it now. I agree with all of your points, we need to move on beyond Trent

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Coff

I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?

Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.

Kerrigan can only comeback if he takes a pay cut

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Kerrigan can only comeback if he takes a pay cut

My thing w/ Kerrigan is we have to start getting rid of guys a year early vs. a year too late, regardless of pay cuts or team status. Let the guy go be a role player on a contending type of team. Joe Montana and Jerry Rice ended their careers on different teams, if they can then so can Ryan Kerrigan.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.

Agreed. It amazes me that some of the same people here who are excited by Bruce being gone are wanting the team to make the same dumb type of moves that Bruce would make. Keeping guys like Williams and Kerrigan is only something you should do if you are "close." We aren't. We have a good base of young talent, but we are rebuilding. If we're giving anyone big money (and we should have a lot in the offseason), it needs to be young, rising players.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Agreed. It amazes me that some of the same people here who are excited by Bruce being gone are wanting the team to make the same dumb type of moves that Bruce would make. Keeping guys like Williams and Kerrigan is only something you should do if you are "close." We aren't. We have a good base of young talent, but we are rebuilding. If we're giving anyone big money (and we should have a lot in the offseason), it needs to be young, rising players.

This is kinda how I lean, but the thing with Trent is super important position with a top 5 talent there. Add a year, up some guaranteed money and offer a short term deal. Then gather a plan to move on from Trent.

Kerrigan should go...

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This is kinda how I lean, but the thing with Trent is super important position with a top 5 talent there. Add a year, up some guaranteed money and offer a short term deal. Then gather a plan to move on from Trent.

Kerrigan should go...

Kerrigan, Williams, Norman, Reed, and Davis just off the top of my head.

[AnonEmouse]

I'd hope we can get TW back too, but its going to rely largely on who takes over from Allen and whether TW feels he can trust them. If TW doesn't trust DS or anyone he appoints, then I don't think anyone coming in will persuade him. Rivera might be able to convince him, but it's a big ask at this point and he may not even want to, preferring to get picks for TW and draft his replacement.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I'd hope we can get TW back too, but its going to rely largely on who takes over from Allen and whether TW feels he can trust them. If TW doesn't trust DS or anyone he appoints, then I don't think anyone coming in will persuade him. Rivera might be able to convince him, but it's a big ask at this point and he may not even want to, preferring to get picks for TW and draft his replacement.

I don't think this is the issue, Williams emphasized that he likes Snyder and doesn't hold anything against him when reporters asked Williams questions about the tumor situaton.

[Schneed10]

You can't change the owner, so this is as happy as we can possibly be about our future.

Hallelujah, Bruce is gone!

The only times we made the playoffs under the Cerrato and Allen regimes were when they were not making the football decisions. Gibbs was given total control curing Cerrato's tenure, two playoff berths. Shanahan was given total control during Allen's tenure, one playoff berth. McCloughan was given GM control during Allen's tenure, one playoff berth.

Turning things over to Rivera is a definite positive compared to where we've been.

[MTK]

Changes likely coming to training/rehab staff as well