Joe Paterno dies at age 85

[MTK]

alright guys let's cool it

[GMScud]

I dont know what your deal is, NC Skins. You get so worked up about this Penn St thing it's like you take everything surrounding it personally.

Back off on the profanity, and let's try to be a little more mature when expressing a difference of opinion.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I dont know what your deal is, NC Skins. You get so worked up about this Penn St thing it's like you take everything surrounding it personally.

Back off on the profanity, and let's try to be a little more mature when expressing a difference of opinion.

Stop and think. Why would a person get so worked up about a case involving child molestation unless...*gasp*...he was molested himself? None of you know my history or my childhood, so when people are highly visible about something, chances are because it hits home with them on a personal level. As a victim, to see people sit back and celebrating some asshole all because he was a good football coach and donated money for a library doesn't cut it with me.

Not a single one of you have answered my question. Would you be wishing him "peace" if it were your kid or even you that he allowed to be molested?


edit: Also, I was attacked first for my opinion, so how about you say that to them.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Stop and think. Why would a person get so worked up about a case involving child molestation unless...*gasp*...he was molested himself? None of you know my history or my childhood, so when people are highly visible about something, chances are because it hits home with them on a personal level. As a victim, to see people sit back and celebrating some asshole all because he was a good football coach and donated money for a library doesn't cut it with me.

Not a single one of you have answered my question. Would you be wishing him "peace" if it were your kid or even you that he allowed to be molested?


edit: Also, I was attacked first for my opinion, so how about you say that to them.

I'm sorry if you were a victim as a child. That's nothing short of terrible.

However, nobody "attacked" you in this thread. They disagreed with you. Djnemo said you were irritating, but I wouldn't say that's being attacked. Telling someone to "f*ck off and die" and calling them a POS however is a different story.

Maybe it's best you just leave this thread alone. We all know how you feel. Kind of a waste of energy on your part to keep this up.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

However, nobody "attacked" you in this thread. They disagreed with you. Djnemo said you were irritating, but I wouldn't say that's being attacked. Telling someone to "f*ck off and die" and calling them a POS however is a different story..

I perceived it as an attack because I voiced my opinion on the matter and was "insensitive". So I'm being "insensitive" to a man who enabled child molestation, but they aren't being "insensitive" to the victims or people who have suffered? Hypocritical and insulting. I told him to **** off and die because he said I didn't know what I was talking about. Imagine telling those same families and victims that. Yeah guys, you don't know what you are talking about.

As I said, it's insulting to the victims and people who have gone through this type of stuff to glorify a man that sit back and enabled. It really is a slap in the face to them.

I'm done with this.

[mredskins]

The funny thing about all of this is Joe has taken more hits then Jerry S. People like lawyers go for deep pockets when they convicted.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

The funny thing about all of this is Joe has taken more hits then Jerry S. People like lawyers go for deep pockets when they convicted.

I'm hoping they put that man in general population come prison time.

[skinsfaninok]

RIP Joe pa.. sad way of ending a great life and career

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm hoping they put that man in general population come prison time.

I think you should just let this all go and worry about the things that you can change. This and your past seem to make you just a bitter person. In the end your angry and bitterness are just destorying your quailty of life.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I think you should just let this all go and worry about the things that you can change. This and your past seem to make you just a bitter person. In the end your angry and bitterness are just destorying your quailty of life.

My life is just fine and so is the quality of my life. I lack nothing, I can love and trust people with no problems. My anger doesn't stem from what happened, it stems from being picked on as a kid and I decided that would never happen again. If you notice, I get really angry about bullies. I despise them. I don't dwell on it though, I rant, say my piece and move on.

However, when I share my feelings towards a man that allowed this type of stuff to go on, it shouldn't be met with "OMG HES A LEGENDARY COACH SO ITS OK BECAUSE HE DID A LOT OF GOOD STUFF."

It's not ok. It's insulting to the victims (both in this case and others) to glorify him, but we don't care about the victims because they really don't concern us since it's not us or our loved ones.

Try looking at the whole picture instead of trying to adjust my life. I may appear to be a "angry" dude, but the reality is I"m not.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

My life is just fine and so is the quality of my life. I lack nothing, I can love and trust people with no problems. My anger doesn't stem from what happened, it stems from being picked on as a kid and I decided that would never happen again. If you notice, I get really angry about bullies. I despise them. I don't dwell on it though, I rant, say my piece and move on.

However, when I share my feelings towards a man that allowed this type of stuff to go on, it shouldn't be met with "OMG HES A LEGENDARY COACH SO ITS OK BECAUSE HE DID A LOT OF GOOD STUFF."

It's not ok. It's insulting to the victims (both in this case and others) to glorify him, but we don't care about the victims because they really don't concern us since it's not us or our loved ones.

Try looking at the whole picture instead of trying to adjust my life. I may appear to be a "angry" dude, but the reality is I"m not.

I understand what u are saying in fact I agree, he was not such a great man as made out to be, I say he was a great coach obviously but not a human especially after knowing what those kids went through. Also if you were abused as a kid I'm sorry for u man, and I hope who ever did it gets or got what they deserved

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I understand what u are saying in fact I agree, he was not such a great man as made out to be, I say he was a great coach obviously but not a human especially after knowing what those kids went through. Also if you were abused as a kid I'm sorry for u man, and I hope who ever did it gets or got what they deserved

It's ok man and I thank you. I don't know what to categorize it as. Abuse? I think he took advantage of a kid that had no clue about sexuality or what was right/wrong. Nobody even knows what went on, and I'm sure that guy (neighbor down the street) is going about his life as normal. I'm sure its the same in a ton of cases. They never get reported. In fact, I think only 2 people in my life I've told prior to telling you guys.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's ok man and I thank you. I don't know what to categorize it as. Abuse? I think he took advantage of a kid that had no clue about sexuality or what was right/wrong. Nobody even knows what went on, and I'm sure that guy (neighbor down the street) is going about his life as normal. I'm sure its the same in a ton of cases. They never get reported. In fact, I think only 2 people in my life I've told prior to telling you guys.

Fair enough, I'm sorry for coming off that way. I just felt like you had clearly made your views on the subject known in the other thread and that it wasn't necessary for you to hijack the RIP thread to make the exact same points.

Edit: quoted the wrong post

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Fair enough, I'm sorry for coming off that way. I just felt like you had clearly made your views on the subject known in the other thread and that it wasn't necessary for you to hijack the RIP thread to make the exact same points.

Edit: quoted the wrong post

You are correct and i apologize for the outburst. It just irks me that the victims are overlooked in all this while we celebrate this man's life(or what I perceive as celebrating). I should have listened to my inner self saying "DONT DO IT" when seeing this thread.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You are correct and i apologize for the outburst. It just irks me that the victims are overlooked in all this while we celebrate this man's life(or what I perceive as celebrating). I should have listened to my inner self saying "DONT DO IT" when seeing this thread.

Where are the victims being overlooked though? The Paterno family has been outspoken about the fact that the victims in this crime need to come first and foremost. Joe Pa also admitted in a recent interview that he mishandled the situation.

IMO it's totally fine to acknowledge all the great things Paterno did in his life. Like or not, the guy had a far reaching positive impact on thousands of student athletes and their families. Yes he made a terrible, terrible mistake in the way he handled the Sandusky situation, which Paterno himself acknowledged. I don't think he should rot in hell, though. Sandusky should.