Grossman, Beck or-ton?

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Orton isn't even good. The point is the Redskins are going to (I presume) pass on him now for the same reasons they passed on all quarterbacks with some skill before. They're more interested in finding the right guys to prove a point than they are in finding guys that can improve the offense.

But hey, Donte Stallworth: 4 targets, 4 catches with a TD on Sunday. You win this round, Mike Shanahan!

this is exactly correct sir....

[skinsfaninok]

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[jonny5dicky]

No, it's just funny because I was right that Grossman was going to start the season over Beck, and still correct that Grossman should have never been benched if this team had a clue. Look at the division, we would be in perfect contention if they didn't put in an incapable quarterback who had 14 completions to a rb, what a bum... I'm not opposed to drafting a quarterback, he just has to be good. But I think Rex should be the starter next season becuase you won't find anybody better. The rest of the team around Rex is what sucks, not Rex.

[jonny5dicky]

It's funny because this team would be in serious division contention if the Redskins didn't put a quarterback in that will never be considered a starting option again in this league. There is no way Rex Grossman would have lost 6 games in a row as a starter, just goes to show you what a failure this franchise has been the past 20 years. I bet he puts up big numbers the rest of the season and enters next year as starter and can't wait until we cut that loser Beck. What a wasted season that had so much hope.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

It's funny because this team would be in serious division contention if the Redskins didn't put a quarterback in that will never be considered a starting option again in this league. There is no way Rex Grossman would have lost 6 games in a row as a starter, just goes to show you what a failure this franchise has been the past 20 years. I bet he puts up big numbers the rest of the season and enters next year as starter and can't wait until we cut that loser Beck. What a wasted season that had so much hope.

Uh oh, Rex Grossman's mother is back. How dare they bench Grossman, all 4 of those picks against Philly were everybody else's fault.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mooby

Uh oh, Rex Grossman's mother is back. How dare they bench Grossman, all 4 of those picks against Philly were everybody else's fault.

Can he control himself when we talk about drafting a fresh face at the QB position in next year's draft?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

Uh oh, Rex Grossman's mother is back. How dare they bench Grossman, all 4 of those picks against Philly were everybody else's fault.

I hear what you are saying but that was really Grossman's first truly pitiful game as a skin. Tom Brady this year has had some games where he has looked absolutley like dog shit, and one or two games where he has thrown 4 interceptions, and nobody benched him. Sure i know its Tom Brady but I didn't think the skins were fair to Rex by benching him after his first truly poor game, for a guy who basically tanked our season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I hear what you are saying but that was really Grossman's first truly pitiful game as a skin. Tom Brady this year has had some games where he has looked absolutley like dog shit, and one or two games where he has thrown 4 interceptions, and nobody benched him. Sure i know its Tom Brady but I didn't think the skins were fair to Rex by benching him after his first truly poor game, for a guy who basically tanked our season.

This is, uh, awkwardly stated, but I think there is truth in this to an extent. Quarterbacks in the NFL just don't get benched after a 3-1 start because of a 4 INT game unless they are getting benched for good.

I realize that Beck would have started the next week anyway because Grossman had pneumonia, but the switch was made because someone with decision making power in the Redskins organization really believed that John Beck could lead an NFL team for three or more months. That's not a switch you'd make at 3-2 to "see what Beck can do."

To his credit, Mike Shanahan hasn't shown a tendency to outright deny the reality of the situation when his quarterback goes out and plays himself out of a job (which is exactly what the Redskins did at RB this year first with Hightower, then with Torain), but the cold truth is that in the NFL, the ability to admit a mistake is not valuable if the only thing you do is make more mistakes.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I hear what you are saying but that was really Grossman's first truly pitiful game as a skin. Tom Brady this year has had some games where he has looked absolutley like dog shit, and one or two games where he has thrown 4 interceptions, and nobody benched him. Sure i know its Tom Brady but I didn't think the skins were fair to Rex by benching him after his first truly poor game, for a guy who basically tanked our season.

Preach. As I've said repeatedly, Grossman is an average QB but so are the majority of qb's in the league. There's Brady, Rodgers, Brees then 25 qb's all relatively close (including Grossman). Then there's the bad including Tavaris Jackson, McNabb, Whitehurst, etc. Then, way farther down the list, you have the Becks and Palko's though Palko might move up to bad.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mooby

Uh oh, Rex Grossman's mother is back. How dare they bench Grossman, all 4 of those picks against Philly were everybody else's fault.

LOL, ^this coming from John Becks father. lol. Look Sir, the team gave your son a legitimate chance.......he fumbled it.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by jonny5dicky

It's funny because this team would be in serious division contention if the Redskins didn't put a quarterback in that will never be considered a starting option again in this league. There is no way Rex Grossman would have lost 6 games in a row as a starter, just goes to show you what a failure this franchise has been the past 20 years. I bet he puts up big numbers the rest of the season and enters next year as starter and can't wait until we cut that loser Beck. What a wasted season that had so much hope.

I agree but Rex's last game against Philly was just plain stupid.. We had a chance if he didn't throw 4 Ints

[Big C]

id bring him in if shannahan thinks he can be a starter next year so he'd have more time to learn the system. otherwise, no thanks.

[Counter-Tre]

Does Orton's release mean the Broncos are gonna be in the hunt for a QB in the draft as well? I don't want any more competition for the Skins.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Does Orton's release mean the Broncos are gonna be in the hunt for a QB in the draft as well? I don't want any more competition for the Skins.

They were anyway

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Does Orton's release mean the Broncos are gonna be in the hunt for a QB in the draft as well? I don't want any more competition for the Skins.

Why would they?
They already have the second coming of Bronko Nagurski.