Redskins and Vikings agree on McNabb trade (updated: deal is done)

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, you can't move up in the 1st round on the backs of those three picks, but if there's a quarterback of second round value that fits your scheme, those three picks should be more than enough to position the team to get a second tier target.

And yeah, a 5 and a 7 for McNabb's contract is a bargain. It's not that friendly of a deal to the team that is acquiring it, unlike Haynesworth's. Which is why this hasn't gone through yet.

How much did Jacksonville give us to move up 6 spots in the first? A 2nd and what else? Maybe if we threw in our 3rd and Oakland's 4th. Either way all this trading of our players for picks will only give us more ammo in next year's draft, which is a good thing.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mooby

How much did Jacksonville give us to move up 6 spots in the first? A 2nd and what else? Maybe if we threw in our 3rd and Oakland's 4th. Either way all this trading of our players for picks will only give us more ammo in next year's draft, which is a good thing.

Just the two.

Even if we were able to move up from 10 to 7, we still couldn't position ourselves to get a quarterback unless he was falling, and we already saw the falling QB scenario play out with Gabbert, and that we passed on him because taking him would have been counterproductive to rebuilding. Even though the value and need were more than there at no. 10.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

For a 5th and 7th? Get that deal done asap lol. Am I the only sitting here thinking next year we might be looking at using our first, Oakland's fourth, and possibly this 5th and 7th as trade bait to move up in the draft to get our qb next year? If that's their line of thinking I'm digging that. And also add whatever we might get for Haynesworth.

As far as sources for the 5th and 7th that I'm hearing, I just got that from SS's post in the Skins free agent thread.

No one in their right mind is going to take all those mid to low round picks and move up in the first round to take one of the top QB's next year.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

No one in their right mind is going to take all those mid to low round picks and move up in the first round to take one of the top QB's next year.

Even if we threw enough of them in? As long as the value matched up, or even if we threw a player in to sweeten the deal, there's no reason it couldn't happen. Doubtful but with all the crazy moves that happen in the NFL is it not possible altogether? I'm not saying we'd give them a 5th and a 7th to move up in the first, but it would certainly be reasonable to think they could make up part of the pot.

[Defensewins]

DM will talk to the other Qb starved teams to see what he is worth to them. Then make his decision. He needs to do what is best for him.
I don't think there is any animosity after this much time. There might have been 7 or 8 months ago, not now.

[SmootSmack]

The 5th and 7th is just speculation right now, nothing concrete

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The 5th and 7th is just speculation right now, nothing concrete

True, but I could see it being a 5th and 7th if a bidding war starts up between teams like Cincy/Miami/Minny.

Why don't they do what we did last year and make it a conditional offer. Say, a 5th if he has an average to below average season, a 4th if he has a decent season and hits certain escalators, or a 3rd if he has a Pro Bowl type season and exceeds everyone's expectations?

[GTripp0012]

Well, lets see. We acquired McNabb when he had "at least three good years left." That was a minimum. Signed him to a long term deal to be the QB of the future. We're willing to trade him a year later.

So knowing that he has at least two good years left, I really hope he brings a first round pick in return.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, lets see. We acquired McNabb when he had "at least three good years left." That was a minimum. Signed him to a long term deal to be the QB of the future. We're willing to trade him a year later.

So knowing that he has at least two good years left, I really hope he brings a first round pick in return.

Lol. A side of rice pilaf is more likely.

The Shanahan's really screwed this situation up, but I'm glad a good player and good guy gets to move on, and I'm glad we're getting something more than rice pilaf for him.

It's a shame it didn't work out. I would have been fun to have McNabb playing at a high level for us for a few years.

[Big C]

yeah, wonder what the tentative deal is.

[SmootSmack]

For the record, it's not official that he's going to Minnesota. There are other options still in play (namely Miami, but I suppose there are other options as well) Minnesota is the favorite, and would seem to be the place for which he'd be most amenable to restructuring his contract.

If he was traded to the Vikings and knowing the contract issues they face with Bernard Berrian and Chad Greenway, would you want either of those guys?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For the record, it's not official that he's going to Minnesota. There are other options still in play (namely Miami, but I suppose there are other options as well) Minnesota is the favorite, and would seem to be the place for which he'd be most amenable to restructuring his contract.

If he was traded to the Vikings and knowing the contract issues they face with Bernard Berrian and Chad Greenway, would you want either of those guys?

I'd take Greenway, but where would he play? Is he suited for ILB in a 3-4?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For the record, it's not official that he's going to Minnesota. There are other options still in play (namely Miami, but I suppose there are other options as well) Minnesota is the favorite, and would seem to be the place for which he'd be most amenable to restructuring his contract.

If he was traded to the Vikings and knowing the contract issues they face with Bernard Berrian and Chad Greenway, would you want either of those guys?

I agree with Mooby. If we feel like he's a fit as a 3-4 ILB, then heck yeah I'd take that guy. Him and Fletch inside with Kerrigan and Rak outside? Yes, please. We're gonna need someone to fill in for Fletch sooner rather than later anyway.

[Lotus]

I love me some Chad Greenway but at 242 lbs. he's a bit small for a 3-4 ILB.

[Alvin Walton]

Feckin A!
I'd take Greenway!