Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Eagles)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Does anybody really feel like we should seriously consider not trading or letting JC go after this season? Because I'm busting out and saying it, I think we shouldn't do anything with JC after the season and we should let the new coach/GM decide whether to keep him or not. Because he's been making more plays and playing like a good quarterback this season ever since he got a little o-line stability in front of him. I really think he's progressed this season despite the o-line hurting badly. He started off slow and yes obviously his two picks today hurt us, but he still makes a lot of positive plays and ever since the second half of the Atlanta game he's been looking pretty good.

I mean that's what a good franchise would do: let the legitimate decision-makers decide, as in a real GM and whoever the coach is next year. I still don't see any reason to believe that's how things will go...Snyder will still be the final say on everything. That said I think JC probably gets dumped or pushed to the backup (Collins gone for sure).

[diehardskin2982]

The coaches playcalling is killing me. when they get the lead it seems like they handcuff the offense to try to conserve the win. That doesn't work. Just because you have a top 10 defense doesn't your justified in always putting them in bad positions. I really hope Snyder cleans house as far as the coaching staff goes.

[SmootSmack]

I think it should be up to whoever is in charge this off-season. But, and I know this may not actually happen in an uncapped year, but I'd like to see us making a firm decision one way or the other. Either cut bait and move on or commit to him long-term. I mean how much longer do you need to make a decision

[diehardskin2982]

I disagree with that assessment of the defense. If anything I think that the defense has kept us in games. They are top 5 in keeping teams out of the endzone. You can't honestly think they are going to shut out every NFL team, every time especially with the way the rules are set up to help offenses

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I disagree with that assessment of the defense. If anything I think that the defense has kept us in games. They are top 5 in keeping teams out of the endzone. You can't honestly think they are going to shut out every NFL team, every time especially with the way the rules are set up to help offenses

And especially when you have the weapons that Philly does; on top of them getting 2 INTs

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I disagree with that assessment of the defense. If anything I think that the defense has kept us in games. They are top 5 in keeping teams out of the endzone. You can't honestly think they are going to shut out every NFL team, every time especially with the way the rules are set up to help offenses

We'll they've kept us in almost half our games now. They didn't give up any big plays against Dallas, Carolina, or Kansas City, and those losses are certainly not on the defense. But we won the Denver game largely in-spite of a bunch of defensive breakdowns.

Anecdotally, our defense "deserves" to have about 5 wins in 11 games. I'm defining this arbitrary designation by crediting them for wins where they gave up 1) no TD drives of 80 yards or longer, 2) no TD plays of 30 yards or longer, and 3) either (at least) one turnover or three sacks.

So, based only on the quality of the defense, we should be better than our record says we are, but still not a playoff team.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I disagree with that assessment of the defense. If anything I think that the defense has kept us in games. They are top 5 in keeping teams out of the endzone. You can't honestly think they are going to shut out every NFL team, every time especially with the way the rules are set up to help offenses

Two weeks in a row the defense kept the Skins in a game UNTIL the 4th quarter when the Skins had the lead and the defense had the opponent in bad field position. At that point in time, the defense folded like a card table chair...


Happened two weeks in a row. Has happened at least a half dozen times in the last two years - - maybe 8 times? The offense is not very good but the defense has to take its fair share of the responsibility for losing games. To this point, they have pretty much gotten a pass...

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Two weeks in a row the defense kept the Skins in a game UNTIL the 4th quarter when the Skins had the lead and the defense had the opponent in bad field position. At that point in time, the defense folded like a card table chair...


Happened two weeks in a row. Has happened at least a half dozen times in the last two years - - maybe 8 times? The offense is not very good but the defense has to take its fair share of the responsibility for losing games. To this point, they have pretty much gotten a pass...

When you're only up by 1 score you can't blame the D unless they walk off of the field really. Our satisfaction with just holding a damn lead has shot us in the foot ever since Gibbs II.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

When you're only up by 1 score you can't blame the D unless they walk off of the field really. Our satisfaction with just holding a damn lead has shot us in the foot ever since Gibbs II.

Blowing people out is not Redskins football. Redskins hater.

[Gmanc711]

I know its on a bunch of people...but smack down on our 2 mintue offense at the end of games... I was on the AIM with Dasel and said "I'll be you my life this drive goes no more than four plays"... I mean when is the last time we have driven down to tie or win a game? I dont even put this on Campbell, because I honest to god can't remember the last time anyone in the orginazation did... I mean its just crazy... really not a whole lot of smack, but I just had to say that.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I know its on a bunch of people...but smack down on our 2 mintue offense at the end of games... I was on the AIM with Dasel and said "I'll be you my life this drive goes no more than four plays"... I mean when is the last time we have driven down to tie or win a game? I dont even put this on Campbell, because I honest to god can't remember the last time anyone in the orginazation did... I mean its just crazy... really not a whole lot of smack, but I just had to say that.

Good smack. We get inside the twenty and we change jerseys or something. It's like you it's coming, but you hope you're wrong.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I know its on a bunch of people...but smack down on our 2 mintue offense at the end of games... I was on the AIM with Dasel and said "I'll be you my life this drive goes no more than four plays"... I mean when is the last time we have driven down to tie or win a game? I dont even put this on Campbell, because I honest to god can't remember the last time anyone in the orginazation did... I mean its just crazy... really not a whole lot of smack, but I just had to say that.

i was saying the same thing while watching. then fox puts up a graphic that says Campbell has 7 fourth quarter comebacks in his career. when did they happen? i didnt know practice counted

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i was saying the same thing while watching. then fox puts up a graphic that says Campbell has 7 fourth quarter comebacks in his career. when did they happen? i didnt know practice counted

Well the 4th quarter is 15 minutes long, it's not just the final two minutes.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And I might just be becoming a Ganther Gangsta. He's not a feature back but I love what he's brought to the table.

I agree. He does several things including running hard, with a purpose. I hope he stays with us.

[MTK]

We had a chance to really take control of the game but Zorn showed no balls by playing for the 3 instead of taking a shot at the endzone. When you're 3-7 where's the "nothing to lose" mentality? I really didn't understand that thinking at all. That's the kind of thing I look at and say, Shanahan would have gone for the throat there no doubt. Zorn is just too soft.