Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

[GTripp0012]

BPA, with a caveat.

If Brandon Spikes is there, you take him. If there is a shutdown corner there, you take him. If Jahvid Best is there, you take him. If Eric Berry is there...etc.

If there is no best player available, like there's no situation where Orakpo falls to us, then you could reach a little bit on Russell Okung, or you could take the top quarterback on the board to satisfy a need. I don't think the top QB on my board is going to be gone until the middle of the first round, so it is what it is.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

BPA, with a caveat.

If Brandon Spikes is there, you take him. If there is a shutdown corner there, you take him. If Jahvid Best is there, you take him. If Eric Berry is there...etc.

If there is no best player available, like there's no situation where Orakpo falls to us, then you could reach a little bit on Russell Okung, or you could take the top quarterback on the board to satisfy a need. I don't think the top QB on my board is going to be gone until the middle of the first round, so it is what it is.

Who is the top QB on your board?

I would LOVE to have Brandon Spikes. Did you see his pick 6 yesterday? Plus the guy is a leader and can flat out stuff the run. He's a perfect 4-3 MLB. But it would make me cringe to use another high first round pick on defense when the O is so badly lagging.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Who is the top QB on your board?

I would LOVE to have Brandon Spikes. Did you see his pick 6 yesterday? Plus the guy is a leader and can flat out stuff the run. He's a perfect 4-3 MLB. But it would make me cringe to use another high first round pick on defense when the O is so badly lagging.

Tripp likes McCoy

Agreed.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Who is the top QB on your board?

I would LOVE to have Brandon Spikes. Did you see his pick 6 yesterday? Plus the guy is a leader and can flat out stuff the run. He's a perfect 4-3 MLB. But it would make me cringe to use another high first round pick on defense when the O is so badly lagging.

Well, if you give me just one pick in the first two rounds to use on an offensive tackle, I could make something adequate out of the offense using just mid-tier free agents. We do need to get to rebuilding the offense at some point, but if the clear BPA is a defensive guy, someone who could score TDs on passes from other teams QBs, that'd be one way to help the Redskins score points. The other thing is: you might change defensive schemes and need another piece in the front seven.

The top QB on my board is Colt McCoy. But it will be interesting to see what happens to Tebow's stock when he goes through the draft process. If there's a bunch of teams that want him in the first round, we could, and probably should get in on that.

If teams simply view him as a package player, then he'd be useless to us.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Who is the top QB on your board?

I would LOVE to have Brandon Spikes. Did you see his pick 6 yesterday? Plus the guy is a leader and can flat out stuff the run. He's a perfect 4-3 MLB. But it would make me cringe to use another high first round pick on defense when the O is so badly lagging.

He better not do shit like this if we drafted him.. at least not on top of the pile

YouTube - Brandon Spikes Eye Gouge

[GTripp0012]

Since 1998, the first overall types have been:

- Peyton Manning
- Carson Palmer
- Phillip Rivers
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Ryan

And you could possibly throw Rodgers and Eli in there as well, though I would not.

So if there's a first overall type once every 2 or 3 years, and it's generally pretty obvious when you have one, you can't pass on them. But it's not like you can trade up to try to create one, when it's just not there.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Since 1998, the first overall types have been:

- Peyton Manning
- Carson Palmer
- Phillip Rivers
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Ryan

And you could possibly throw Rodgers and Eli in there as well, though I would not.

So if there's a first overall type once every 2 or 3 years, and it's generally pretty obvious when you have one, you can't pass on them. But it's not like you can trade up to try to create one, when it's just not there.

Just curious why your not including Eli in there when he was drafted before Big Ben was in 2004?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Just curious why your not including Eli in there when he was drafted before Big Ben was in 2004?

I think Big Ben is debatable there as well, actually. I just think he's less scheme dependent than Manning is.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Since 1998, the first overall types have been:

- Peyton Manning
- Carson Palmer
- Phillip Rivers
- Ben Roethlisberger
- Matt Ryan

And you could possibly throw Rodgers and Eli in there as well, though I would not.

So if there's a first overall type once every 2 or 3 years, and it's generally pretty obvious when you have one, you can't pass on them. But it's not like you can trade up to try to create one, when it's just not there.

Bill Parcells passed on Matt Ryan, and I would defend that decision. He realized that if he didn't address the O-line in a big way, it didn't matter who his QB would be. Drafting Jake Long was the right move, and the Dolphins will be relevant before we will, because Parcells teams don't get whipped in the trenches the way we do (especially on offense). He went from 1-15 to 11-5 with weak armed Pennington at QB for crying out loud!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Bill Parcells passed on Matt Ryan, and I would defend that decision. He realized that if he didn't address the O-line in a big way, it didn't matter who his QB would be. Drafting Jake Long was the right move, and the Dolphins will be relevant before we will, because Parcells teams don't get whipped in the trenches the way we do (especially on offense). He went from 1-15 to 11-5 with weak armed Pennington at QB for crying out loud!!!

Parcells has also made it count by establishing the OL as a great unit, and then putting the infrastructure in place to take a rushing game, and turn it into something you have to spend extra hours scheming for.

Ryan also was not necessarily a better prospect than Henne coming out, and would have been a significant risk for the Dolphins. It now looks like Ryan was the better player, like a lot of people thought he was, but I can support Parcells' decision to pass.

Who is the Ryan of this draft though? Unless one player in specific can be identified, you have to pass on QB in the first round.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Bill Parcells passed on Matt Ryan, and I would defend that decision. He realized that if he didn't address the O-line in a big way, it didn't matter who his QB would be. Drafting Jake Long was the right move, and the Dolphins will be relevant before we will, because Parcells teams don't get whipped in the trenches the way we do (especially on offense). He went from 1-15 to 11-5 with weak armed Pennington at QB for crying out loud!!!

I personally thought that was the conclusion the common fan was finally going to come to. It seems like some fans still want a QB or RB even though their efforts would be futile with no stand out OL.

I don't know how people can't come to that conclusion. The longer our line is not accounted for with elite young talent, the longer it will be until we have a competitive team.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I personally thought that was the conclusion the common fan was finally going to come to. It seems like some fans still want a QB or RB even though their efforts would be futile with no stand out OL.

I don't know how people can't come to that conclusion. The longer our line is not accounted for with elite young talent, the longer it will be until we have a competitive team.

Who do you think has the best offensive line in the league?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who do you think has the best offensive line in the league?

It's the Jets, I think

If not them, then I think it's either New Orleans, Tennessee, Miami, Baltimore, or Denver.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who do you think has the best offensive line in the league?

I'd say the best line is the deepest line.

With 5 guys starting there's tons of margin for injury.

[tryfuhl]

I think that it depends who's on the board at line still. I'm still not sold that we won't pick whose jersey will sell the best (maybe not literally.. but the "popular" option) at QB if we do that though.