5 Things Jim Zorn Should Change Right Now

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I disagree with most of that article. I wholeheartedly agree with the Zorn-should-coach part.

I agree with #5, let someone else call the plays.

[44Deezel]

Unleash Campbell so we can see more bombs to no one, more flat fade passes out of bounds and new record lows in pass interference calls. Also, he needs to let Campbell scramble more and buy time, because he throws with such pinpoint precision when he's on the move.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Unleash Campbell so we can see more bombs to no one, more flat fade passes out of bounds and new record lows in pass interference calls. Also, he needs to let Campbell scramble more and buy time, because he throws with such pinpoint precision when he's on the move.

What, no "let's take Campbell out in the yard and shoot him like Old Yeller", come on man, you can be more creative?

[skinsfan69]

1. Zorn needs to get more creative in the run game. Wildcat, counters, traps draws
2. Blache needs to get more aggressive
3. Daniels would be on the bench and never see the field again
4. Move Orakpo to DE
5. I'd give JC a few more games but at some point he has to take some of the blame for an offense that can't score. And although his stats look good, he's missed some deep passes, he's held the ball too long and he not getting us in the end zone. He didn't play well yesterday even though the numbers don't reflect that. Maybe trying Collins isn't such a bad idea.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

1. Zorn needs to get more creative in the run game. Wildcat, counters, traps draws
2. Blache needs to get more aggressive
3. Daniels would be on the bench and never see the field again
4. Move Orakpo to DE
5. I'd give JC a few more games but at some point he has to take some of the blame for an offense that can't score. And although his stats look good, he's missed some deep passes, he's held the ball too long and he not getting us in the end zone. He didn't play well yesterday even though the numbers don't reflect that. Maybe trying Collins isn't such a bad idea.

These are good points.

I don't entirely agree with your first solution because I think Zorn need to turn over the play-calling to his OC. Zorn spends the whole game with his nose in that list of plays he carries when he needs to have his head in the game.

I agree that Orakpo needs to be moved to DE. He's more valuable at that position.

Yes, Daniels is finished but what has Carter done to deserve a free pass? He plays next to a man who is double-teamed and he still can't get to the passer. Sit him, too.

Play Orakpo at RDE and Jarmon at LDE. Chris Wilson is supposed to be a SLB now, so let him play the position. If nothing else, those moves should provide improvement in the speed of our defense.

I also agree that Blache needs to call a more aggressive game. If he did, he might be able to cut down on the long drives we're allowing. The defense needs to find a way to get off the field, rest, and give the offense more possessions.

On offense, I think Zorn should give Marko Mitchell and Anthony Alridge a chance to play some. I don't have any idea on what to do with the OL.

[Green1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

1. Zorn needs to get more creative in the run game. Wildcat, counters, traps draws
2. Blache needs to get more aggressive
3. Daniels would be on the bench and never see the field again
4. Move Orakpo to DE
5. I'd give JC a few more games but at some point he has to take some of the blame for an offense that can't score. And although his stats look good, he's missed some deep passes, he's held the ball too long and he not getting us in the end zone. He didn't play well yesterday even though the numbers don't reflect that. Maybe trying Collins isn't such a bad idea.

I agree with everything except 5. Campbell has a higher passer rating than Tom Brady but it continues to be his fault.

[Chico23231]

I agree with everything, except playing Barnes. He didnt show anything in preseason to show he belongs on that field. Both the honorable mentions I wouldnt do. What I agree with the most is more no huddle and shotgun and Jarmon playing.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I agree with everything, except playing Barnes. He didnt show anything in preseason to show he belongs on that field. Both the honorable mentions I wouldnt do. What I agree with the most is more no huddle and shotgun and Jarmon playing.

and that is different then Smoot how?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

and that is different then Smoot how?

I would choose Westbrook or Tryon over Barnes to replace Smoot. I do think it is time for Smoot to move on. IMO Barnes not as solid as the other two reserve corners in what I have seen. Tryon god aweful in his first preseason game but improved. Westbrook just seems to get his name called and is always around the ball. Carlos and Hall should remain the starters.

[BDBohnzie]

At 1-2, and with time to right the ship, I don't think an all out youth movement is the right thing for this team at the moment. 1-6, 1-7 and yes, you let the young guys get their feet wet, but the season isn't a complete loss. Jarmon did play yesterday, but both Barnes and Mitchell have several guys ahead of them. The downside to a youth movement is letting this guys get banged up to the point where they start regressing too much.

I agree with #4, but you have a former QB as your head coach and play caller, so unfortunately that's not going to change. Zorn is very uncomfortable in allowing Campbell to freely run the offense, and for whatever reason, Campbell cannot audible out when the team in the red zone. Zorn went as far as telling Sonny Jurgenson that last week. Something has to give here, and I think will have to be Zorn dumbing down his offense not because his QB doesn't understand, but because his players aren't executing.

#5 - Zorn does need to relinquish play calling, but his ego will get in the way of doing so. Again, being a former QB, he has a vision that he wants carried out and doesn't feel comfortable in letting others carry out that vision. He needs to take a step back and recollect himself. Allow someone to help with the play calling, preferably from the booth, and get this team's swagger back.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

At 1-2, and with time to right the ship, I don't think an all out youth movement is the right thing for this team at the moment. 1-6, 1-7 and yes, you let the young guys get their feet wet, but the season isn't a complete loss. Jarmon did play yesterday, but both Barnes and Mitchell have several guys ahead of them. The downside to a youth movement is letting this guys get banged up to the point where they start regressing too much.

I agree with #4, but you have a former QB as your head coach and play caller, so unfortunately that's not going to change. Zorn is very uncomfortable in allowing Campbell to freely run the offense, and for whatever reason, Campbell cannot audible out when the team in the red zone. Zorn went as far as telling Sonny Jurgenson that last week. Something has to give here, and I think will have to be Zorn dumbing down his offense not because his QB doesn't understand, but because his players aren't executing.

#5 - Zorn does need to relinquish play calling, but his ego will get in the way of doing so. Again, being a former QB, he has a vision that he wants carried out and doesn't feel comfortable in letting others carry out that vision. He needs to take a step back and recollect himself. Allow someone to help with the play calling, preferably from the booth, and get this team's swagger back.

The sad fact is everyone, meaning tv analysts, ex coach's, and fans, can see that during our 6 min drill ( cause we have no 2 min drill) JC actually moves the ball better partially cause he is in shot gun and everyone thinks cause JC is calling the plays himself. Yet when we are out of the supposed 2min drill we look enemic.

[SFREDSKIN]

#6. Add Mason and Alridge in the mix and part with Betts.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

#6. Add Mason and Alridge in the mix and part with Betts.

Another agreeable comment. If your going to run the ball and have it go no where then ya might as well let it be the rookie or someone learning from their mistakes instead of someone just treading water.

[bm32286]

I agree with pretty much everything you guys are saying. I definitely agree with Bohnzie in that ZOrn will never relinquish the play calling. He was originally hired as the offensive coordinator two years back until he was brought up to head coach. His ego is entirely too big for that, and for him to give up play calling to someone else would simply exacerbate the problem and single out the fact that he isn't getting the job done. He wants to keep the play calling so HE can right the ship, and do you blame him?

In terms of play calling, they need to toss more screens or allow Campbell to roll out a bit more, almost what Gibbs did with Brunell a few years back when he was having issues in the pocket. Allowing such plays will not only get much needed chunks of yardage, but it will build Campbell's confidence. He is a good QB, but just needs to be put in the right situations. He is almost like your girlfriend or wife. You need to give him reasons to think he is a good quarterback for him to step up and play like one. It seems he is very fragile, but with some sort of consistency he will get better. JC has a real problem of checking down WAY too early (which is why Cooley had such a Pro-Bowl year two years ago) and he doesn't step up into the pocket very well. Tossing some quick screens and allowing him to move out of the pocket can eliminate these things and help him take better care of the ball.

Overall, it's not as bad as it might seem. Yes, we lost to the woeful Lions. But this could possibly be the best thing that has happened to us all season. If we get on some kind of run and get some consistency and win some games, we could look back and say that this was the turning point. Let's not be pathetic Philly fans or NY fans and jump ship. Have some faith, have some loyalty, and this thing will get fixed.

[44Deezel]

1 - Where are the passes purposely thrown behind the Receivers. I don't know the name of the route, but other teams throws those passes effectively a couple times a game.

2 - Why don't they roll Campbell out by design every once in a while?

3 - Why not a QB draw in the red zone, or bootleg (naked even), or play action pass to the TE???

4 - Why not a WR screen to Kelly? He stiff-armed some dude for the Jags in the pre-season and made the first down. It brings the corners up and sets them up for passes over the top. I used to hate the excessive use of this play during the Gibbs Deuce tenure, but I do recall it went for a 78 yard TD to Moss once. It can be effective.

5 - WHERE ARE THE PASS INTERFERENCE CALLS? The Lions managed to free up single coverage downfield several times and got a pass interference call and one TD that got called back. Why can't we get a guy downfield in single coverage and put the ball in a place that the Receiver can make an attempt at it??? Not even once in 3 games? We were dead last in pass interference calls last year. Maybe something to work on this year?!?!?!