The 2nd Amendment Thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

What discussion??? Something happens chico owns the "libs" and republicans answer with "enforce the gun laws on the books including mandatory prison time for possession of an illegal firearm since illegal guns are used in over 70% of all gun crime", what needs to be discussed?

Fixed it so we are clear

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Fixed it so we are clear

No you made up an "alternative fact" like trump does you're both shitty Americans.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Looking for actual discussions about the 2nd amendment:

Just my two cents second amendment and gun violence are two different issues.

When I look at gun violence I see data and the data overwhelming supports that certain types of gun control is highly effective and there are reasons for it. What we do in this country in terms of the type of gun laws we have is not supported by the data. The flip side of that is the second amendment is not a scientific issue. It is a moral one do you believe in the right to own a gun or not.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Just my two cents second amendment and gun violence are two different issues.

When I look at gun violence I see data and the data overwhelming supports that certain types of gun control is highly effective and there are reasons for it. What we do in this country in terms of the type of gun laws we have is not supported by the data. The flip side of that is the second amendment is not a scientific issue. It is a moral one do you believe in the right to own a gun or not.

This is where I stand. I feel like any American 21 years of age or older that has not previously been convicted of a gun crime should legally be allowed to own any gun they want. You could give me a bazooka launcher and it would never harm anyone.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This is where I stand. I feel like any American 21 years of age or older that has not previously been convicted of a gun crime should legally be allowed to own any gun they want. You could give me a bazooka launcher and it would never harm anyone.

That's you, laws are to deal with 100% of the population. Should people be allowed to have guns , IMO No no need for them but I know that's not reasonable. SO you regulate it like a car. Registrations , age limits , Insurance AND TAX THE SHIT OUT OF AMMO.

[SunnySide]

West was arrested on Wednesday and is currently in police custody on a $100,000 bond. An initial police report described the shooting as a “justifiable homicide.”

A GoFundMe was set up to help Shin’s family with expenses, such as funeral costs and legal fees. The crowdfunding effort has raised more than $85,000 as of this writing. "Any excess funds will be received by his surviving 14-year-old daughter," the GoFundMe post noted.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/group-pun...175508661.html

Any car accident can turn into a wild west shoot out .. since everyone has a gun.

When is Texas/Abbott/Cruz going to do something about the rampant "justified homicides" in their State?

Texas road rage and guns = death

These are people legally allowed to carry guns around with them ... maybe guns for everyone everywhere isnt a good idea.

[MTK]

Op-Ed: Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs follows six brutal years of Republican anti-LGBTQ rhetoric

Don't worry, thoughts and prayers are on the way

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Op-Ed: Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs follows six brutal years of Republican anti-LGBTQ rhetoric

Don't worry, thoughts and prayers are on the way

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/u...ub-q-hero.html

This just sucks man. Imagine coming back to the US trying to heal yourself from the PTSD of doing 4 tours overseas, and the war comes to you instead.

Hope everyone who was there will be able to get the help they need. And RIP to those who died.

If I felt like there was something positive to be gained or some common middle ground we could all reach from this experience, I'd say something. But we all know passing any sort of law that makes it harder for nutjobs to have access to guns is really some sort of law against mainstream conservatism in disguise, so we can't do anything.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Op-Ed: Club Q shooting in Colorado Springs follows six brutal years of Republican anti-LGBTQ rhetoric

Don't worry, thoughts and prayers are on the way

The suspect is non binary…meaning he is part of the community he attacked. So this strategy to politicize this senseless act of violence falls flat yet again.

Maybe his mental illness is caused by this weird fad to be non binary or whatever clown piss these folks they will make up tomorrow. Pathetic bullshit community

I guess I should expect apologies from NBC news, CNN, msnbc, Washington Post, other fake news outlets to Tucker, Fox News, Libs of Tik Tok, GOP politicians, Etc?

Is there every any accountability for this fake news bullshit? Shouldn’t there be?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The suspect is non binary…meaning he is part of the community he attacked. So this strategy to politicize this senseless act of violence falls flat yet again.

Maybe his mental illness is caused by this weird fad to be non binary or whatever clown piss these folks they will make up tomorrow. Pathetic bullshit community

I guess I should expect apologies from NBC news, CNN, msnbc, Washington Post, other fake news outlets to Tucker, Fox News, Libs of Tik Tok, GOP politicians, Etc?

Is there every any accountability for this fake news bullshit? Shouldn’t there be?

You seem angry today .. a bunch of gay people get killed and your take is "pathetic bullshit community" ..

honestly take step back from buying into all this culture war stuff for a bit .. gay people arent the enemy.


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The suspect’s father is a mixed martial arts fighter and pornography performer with an extensive criminal history, including convictions for battery against the alleged shooter’s mother, Laura Voepel, both before and after the suspect was born, state and federal court records show. A 2002 misdemeanor battery conviction in California resulted in a protective order that initially barred the father, Aaron F. Brink, from contacting the suspect or Voepel except through an attorney, but was later modified to allow monitored visits with the child.

The father also was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in custody for importation of marijuana and while on supervised release violated his conditions by testing positive for illegal steroids, according to public records. Brink could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Aldrich’s request for a name change came months after Aldrich was apparently targeted by online bullying. A website posting from June 2015 that attacked a teen named Nick Brink suggests they may have been bullied in high school. The post included photos similar to ones of the shooting suspect and ridiculed Brink over their weight, lack of money and what it said was an interest in Chinese cartoons.

https://apnews.com/article/entertain...6b60961ea04cd0

Bullying ... access to military style guns ... fucked up childhood ..

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

You seem angry today .. a bunch of gay people get killed and your take is "pathetic bullshit community" ..

honestly take step back from buying into all this culture war stuff for a bit .. gay people arent the enemy.


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The suspect’s father is a mixed martial arts fighter and pornography performer with an extensive criminal history, including convictions for battery against the alleged shooter’s mother, Laura Voepel, both before and after the suspect was born, state and federal court records show. A 2002 misdemeanor battery conviction in California resulted in a protective order that initially barred the father, Aaron F. Brink, from contacting the suspect or Voepel except through an attorney, but was later modified to allow monitored visits with the child.

The father also was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in custody for importation of marijuana and while on supervised release violated his conditions by testing positive for illegal steroids, according to public records. Brink could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Aldrich’s request for a name change came months after Aldrich was apparently targeted by online bullying. A website posting from June 2015 that attacked a teen named Nick Brink suggests they may have been bullied in high school. The post included photos similar to ones of the shooting suspect and ridiculed Brink over their weight, lack of money and what it said was an interest in Chinese cartoons.

https://apnews.com/article/entertain...6b60961ea04cd0

Bullying ... access to military style guns ... fucked up childhood ..

Could it be possible his family and fucked up upbringing was a contributing factor?

Nah. Clearly he was indoctrinated by the LBGTQABC's community.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Could it be possible his family and fucked up upbringing was a contributing factor?

Nah. Clearly he was indoctrinated by the LBGTQABC's community.

Nah, it’s Tucker Carlson right?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

You seem angry today .. a bunch of gay people get killed and your take is "pathetic bullshit community" ..

honestly take step back from buying into all this culture war stuff for a bit .. gay people arent the enemy.


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The suspect’s father is a mixed martial arts fighter and pornography performer with an extensive criminal history, including convictions for battery against the alleged shooter’s mother, Laura Voepel, both before and after the suspect was born, state and federal court records show. A 2002 misdemeanor battery conviction in California resulted in a protective order that initially barred the father, Aaron F. Brink, from contacting the suspect or Voepel except through an attorney, but was later modified to allow monitored visits with the child.

The father also was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in custody for importation of marijuana and while on supervised release violated his conditions by testing positive for illegal steroids, according to public records. Brink could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Aldrich’s request for a name change came months after Aldrich was apparently targeted by online bullying. A website posting from June 2015 that attacked a teen named Nick Brink suggests they may have been bullied in high school. The post included photos similar to ones of the shooting suspect and ridiculed Brink over their weight, lack of money and what it said was an interest in Chinese cartoons.

https://apnews.com/article/entertain...6b60961ea04cd0

Bullying ... access to military style guns ... fucked up childhood ..

SS, honest question…culture war stuff, what started the discussion here? Obviously you didn’t read the link posted by MTK…where the jump to conclusion was Tucker, GOP, Fox News…blah blah fake news. I could post 10-20 stories, video clips, etc of the narrative.

This narrative is just as poor and frankly dumb as Berkeley drug addict living in the BLM, LGBTQ flagged -out house is maga. You guys fall for it everytime.

I keep hearing people are upset and concerned about division in this country…who continues to be that driver of division?: national corporate media. If you don’t see it by you are a fucking moron. Shouldn’t we all be upset? My take isn’t gay people, my take is incorrect, misinformation narrative. But you know that

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

SS, honest question…culture war stuff, what started the discussion here? Obviously you didn’t read the link posted by MTK…where the jump to conclusion was Tucker, GOP, Fox News…blah blah fake news. I could post 10-20 stories, video clips, etc of the narrative.

This narrative is just as poor and frankly dumb as Berkeley drug addict living in the BLM, LGBTQ flagged -out house is maga. You guys fall for it everytime.

I keep hearing people are upset and concerned about division in this country…who continues to be that driver of division?: national corporate media. If you don’t see it by you are a fucking moron. Shouldn’t we all be upset? My take isn’t gay people, my take is incorrect, misinformation narrative. But you know that

National corporate media? Idk that sounds like some vague fear mongering boogeyman BS.

berekley guy wasnt clearly driven by far right Q Anon conspiracies?

Relax, smoke a joint, roast a turkey. You seemed a bit extra right now, kinda stressed a bit. I get jacked sometimes as well. It helps me just to say "yup im in a mood right now" and if it takes a few hours or day til I reset, it is what it is.

What happens around the Country tonight doesnt effect your or my life at all. Its only if we let and want that outside noise to come into the sanctity and peacefulness of our home.

half the time I want that outside noise, I seek it out and it gets me all riled up. But its not good for me. Our personal life is already stressful enough. We dont need to add the weight of these national stories to our own shoulders.

Sometimes, I need a break and a reset of what actually matters. Good family, good food, good times.

Im preachy right now .. preaching to myself that I gotta compartamentalize these things and when I do I realize .. tucker carlsons or don lemons take on some drag show isnt even on the list of important things in my life.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

SS, honest question…culture war stuff, what started the discussion here? Obviously you didn’t read the link posted by MTK…where the jump to conclusion was Tucker, GOP, Fox News…blah blah fake news. I could post 10-20 stories, video clips, etc of the narrative.

This narrative is just as poor and frankly dumb as Berkeley drug addict living in the BLM, LGBTQ flagged -out house is maga. You guys fall for it everytime.

I keep hearing people are upset and concerned about division in this country…who continues to be that driver of division?: national corporate media. If you don’t see it by you are a fucking moron. Shouldn’t we all be upset? My take isn’t gay people, my take is incorrect, misinformation narrative. But you know that

chico , are you that stupid that you don't see you do exactly what it is you bitch moan and cry about others doing?



I knew it was a stupid question but there was a chance.