Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition

[Meks]

Beck is horrid. I don't care about the line .. Rex would have gotten rid of the damn ball at least. ****. and FIRE KYLE ALREADY WTF

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Meks

Beck is horrid. I don't care about the line .. Rex would have gotten rid of the damn ball at least. ****. and FIRE KYLE ALREADY WTF

Problem is Rex gets rid of the ball by throwing it to the other team. LOL

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Problem is Rex gets rid of the ball by throwing it to the other team. LOL

But he GETS RID OF THE BALL man! LOL.

[MTK]

Can't call for a youth movement and then lament letting someone like Hicks go.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can't call for a youth movement and then lament letting someone like Hicks go.

We need youth, but depth too. I don't love Artis Hicks or anything, just an example.

I'm just disheartened at the overall lack of effort and fire in most of the last 3 games. We're going backwards and getting beaten physically and mentally.

These players were all talking about how this season had a different feel. Well, let's see it fellas. Looks like the same crap to me.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can't call for a youth movement and then lament letting someone like Hicks go.

Agree. The decision to get rid of a washed up player like Artis Hicks is not what is ailing this team right now.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Agree. The decision to get rid of a washed up player like Artis Hicks is not what is ailing this team right now.

Keeping a million WRs at the expense of good O-line depth is certainly hurting us. I don't care who is throwing the ball or who is catching it, we can't run the ball, and we have no time to throw (although from what I hear a few of those sacks were on Beck, not the line).

The defense is going backwards, the offense was never there to begin with, and we can't run the ball or stop the run. Barring a big turnaround, we may only win 1 or 2 more games. At this point I'm not even confident in the Miami game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Keeping a million WRs at the expense of good O-line depth is certainly hurting us. I don't care who is throwing the ball or who is catching it, we can't run the ball, and we have no time to throw (although from what I hear a few of those sacks were on Beck, not the line).

The defense is going backwards, the offense was never there to begin with, and we can't run the ball or stop the run. Barring a big turnaround, we may only win 1 or 2 more games. At this point I'm not even confident in the Miami game.

No. We're not going to be favored the rest of the season. My expectation is a 2-7 finish.

I can't think of any good reason why Donte Stallworth is here. I have a hypothesis though. I think he was kept because Shanahan didn't want to develop the reputation as a guy who will sign vets to one year contracts and just cut them at the end of camp.

Which is a pretty good idea. Until Donte Stallworth starts getting end arounds and third down targets. Then its awful.

Moss is injured and Stallworth is still useless.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Keeping a million WRs at the expense of good O-line depth is certainly hurting us. I don't care who is throwing the ball or who is catching it, we can't run the ball, and we have no time to throw (although from what I hear a few of those sacks were on Beck, not the line).

The defense is going backwards, the offense was never there to begin with, and we can't run the ball or stop the run. Barring a big turnaround, we may only win 1 or 2 more games. At this point I'm not even confident in the Miami game.

Artis Hicks and Donte Stallworth are essentially the same, except one guy plays a different position from the other. They will provide $0 worth of goods for us or anyone else one year from now. We need guys who have at least have a chance to be a million dollar player for us for multiple years, so we should be allocating our limited roster spots to prospects who have a chance to give us that, not old coots who do very little.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Artis Hicks and Donte Stallworth are essentially the same, except one guy plays a different position from the other. They will provide $0 worth of goods for us or anyone else one year from now. We need guys who have at least have a chance to be a million dollar player for us for multiple years, so we should be allocating our limited roster spots to prospects who have a chance to give us that, not old coots who do very little.

While I agree that developing a multitude of young players is important, what we've done with our O-line depth is laughable. We have pretty much zero depth to speak of, and instead opt to carry 8 or 9 receivers. I have no love for Artis Hicks, I was simply using him as an example of some veteran depth along an O-line that can't afford to have Maurice Hurt in the starting lineup.

[REDSKINS4ever]

For whatever reason, I feel this Redskin team is much better than what they showed the last three games. We don't need to talk about the Buffalo Bills game anymore. What more needs to be said? What matters now is what Mike Shanahan does to correct this 3 game skid.

If the LT Locklear is more suited at right tackle, then they need to switch Jamaal Brown to left tackle(where Brown is more suited) and place Locklear at right tackle. Eric Cook is a bum. They should move Montgomery back to center and put one of the reserve tackles at left guard. Anything worth building some cohesion would be better than reliving the comic relief effort seen yesterday.

Torain had 8 carries for a anemic 14 yards? That's crazy! A different combination on the line of scrimmage may very well prove a much more effective result on the football field.

[firstdown]

Was it just me or did we seem to lack effort yesterday? I can say with all the loses I have seen over the past 10 yrs I always felt the players gave the effort. Yesterday I did not come away with that feeling.

[over the mountain]

chester, lich, montgomery, williams and brown seems like the best opening day line weve had in a long time.

i feel like weve done a good job revamping the O line the past 2 years. perhaps none are top tier talent but they are all seemingly solid starters imo. i guess we could use some upper end talent

i just dont feel like our O line needs that much more attention. were just really banged up right now.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

chester, lich, montgomery, williams and brown seems like the best opening day line weve had in a long time.

i feel like weve done a good job revamping the O line the past 2 years. perhaps none are top tier talent but they are all seemingly solid starters imo. i guess we could use some upper end talent

i just dont feel like our O line needs that much more attention. were just really banged up right now.

They've done a good job getting new bodies but that's about it. Anyone can sign bodies. Jamal Brown is pure garbage at RT. Not sure if he's more comfortable over on the left side but he can't play RT. So the Brown experiment over on the right side hasn't panned out at all. Fail. Also Chester isn't any good either. Who's idea was it to sign him???? Fail! The right side needs an overhaul!

[SirClintonPortis]

We ought to try and model player's return to us in dollar terms. Hicks would net us about 10 bucks for one or two more years. Only problem is, we need one thousand dollars coming from our linemen. Rookies might do worse than his 10 bucks, but they can do much better. And in the NFL, if you don't at least try to win big with your roster moves, you won't win at all.