ESPN: Teams that are helped/hurt by the new salary cap proposal

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nope, Business 101 if you have a good product customers want and you supply that in a matter that is costly and efficent ....you will make a profit.Without the players there is no game to sell ,ergo no revenue, ergo no profit.

Go back to Business 101. You continue to confuse the concepts of revenue and profit. Profit includes expenses, revenue does not. You use the concepts too interchangeably.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Go back to Business 101. You continue to confuse the concepts of revenue and profit. Profit includes expenses, revenue does not. You use the concepts too interchangeably.

Haven't confused a thing jr.players generate the revenue by playing the game,so if they don't play and don't generate revenue how much profit do you make ....if they don't play?It's minds like yours that put the housing market the way it is today.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Haven't confused a thing jr.players generate the revenue by playing the game,so if they don't play and don't generate revenue how much profit do you make ....if they don't play?It's minds like yours that put the housing market the way it is today.

Okay, that's step one... players generate revenue. Without revenue there is no profit. Everyone agrees with you there. It's step two with which you seem to be having difficulty ....

Now watch carefully, stay with me on this ... I know it's hard for you as moving beyond a one variable equation seems to send you into system shock ....

If you have revenue and use to much money on dumb expenses you have (wait for it) ... LOSS. On the other hand, if you have revenue and don't use money on dumb expenses, you have PROFIT.

See how the revenue generated can result in EITHER profit OR loss? While it is true that without players there can be no profits, it is also true that player generated revenues don't guarrantee profits.

I'll stop now. We wouldn't want to overload that single little neuron running around in your head. <sarcasm font off>

Is this what you are trying to say: but for the owners decisions, investments, and marketing, the players wouldn't be generating 9 billion in revenue. If so, I would agree generally with that statement. Still, as a player, I wouldn't want my income tied to the profit/loss statement but rather simply a cut of the gross revenues before the owners start deducting their investments.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay, that's step one... players generate revenue. Without revenue there is no profit. Everyone agrees with you there. It's step two with which you seem to be having difficulty ....

Now watch carefully, stay with me on this ... I know it's hard for you as moving beyond a one variable equation seems to send you into system shock ....

If you have revenue and use to much money on dumb expenses you have (wait for it) ... LOSS. On the other hand, if you have revenue and don't use money on dumb expenses, you have PROFIT.

See how the revenue generated can result in EITHER profit OR loss? While it is true that without players there can be no profits, it is also true that player generated revenues don't guarrantee profits.

I'll stop now. We wouldn't want to overload that single little neuron running around in your head. <sarcasm font off>

Is this what you are trying to say: but for the owners decisions, investments, and marketing, the players wouldn't be generating 9 billion in revenue. If so, I would agree generally with that statement. Still, as a player, I wouldn't want my income tied to the profit/loss statement but rather simply a cut of the gross revenues before the owners start deducting their investments.

LOL...this remeinds me of the Professor from the Rodney Dangerfield movie Back to School ...where he starts a company.....and it all starts good but Rodney tells how it's done in the real world.real world you are not.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Eron had accounts also and look where that is? What I want is for you and the other rocket scientist to tell me how you generate profit from revenue....if there is no revenue coming in ie....no product to sell?

You can't. No one disagrees with that statement. To generate profit you must have revenue.

Revenue, however, does not guarantee profit.

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL...this remeinds me of the Professor from the Rodney Dangerfield movie Back to School ...where he starts a company.....and it all starts good but Rodney tells how it's done in the real world.real world you are not.

So I take it in the real world basic arithmetic doesn't apply? Revenue - Expenses= Profit/Loss (which by the way works w/ your R.Dangerfield example 'cause paying off the unions was just one of his expenses).

Really, what's your point? Or are just being blatantly obtuse?

[Lotus]

^ I just gave up, Joe. Only one person here fails to understand the difference between revenue and profit. Let's just all be glad that he does not run our businesses.