I am Impressed Am Excitied With All The Young Guys Stepping Up This Year

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Armstrong proved himself this year as well.

Even if all the guys that stepped up yesterday only pan out to be quality depth guys, that's not something that should be looked down upon. Quality depth is something we've been seriously lacking.

Your right. I think alot of the guys out there yesterday are depth guys. Although I like Armstrong I see him as a 3rd or 4th WR on many teams. Torian seems like a very good find, but again probably a #2/3 guy. So, yea, we need as much depth as possible.

[iRepDMV]

I must say very impressed. Certainly a plus in our rebuilding process. Were only gonna get younger.

So far we got 7 draft picks for the 2011 NFL Draft. I think by draft time that count will go up to around 10.

1st
2nd
5th
5th (From Saints in J. Brown trade)
6th
7th
7th (From Colts in Tryon trade)

I can see more 2011 draft picks coming from a McNabb trade, Haynesworth trade, and possibly Moss or one of our tight ends in a trade. McNabb would probably go for a 5th rounder (I hope for a 4th but i doubt it. Thats what we gave up for him. His value has certainly decreased since the start of the season). Haynesworth would probably go for a 4th rounder (Hes still a beast, hes just stubborn). As for Moss or the one the tight ends, i see fourth rounders as well. Now just coming to mind, Andre Carter could possibly be traded as well..for 6th rounder or 7th rounder. This would leave us to around 11 draft picks.

[Monkeydad]

Kevin Barnes should move to FS and start ahead of Moore next season. Fast, big hitter...CBs can cover better than Safeties usually...and now we know he can catch!

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

A team is nothing, without a Quarterback. Keep drafting them untill you have one and then you can build your team.

We have so many holes in our starting lineup, just pick the best player available that is not a TE and will be fine. What we really need is just have a few really productive drafts! That is a new concept in DC! A good draft. Wow! Forgot what that was like. Not since the 80's. We are way over-do.
We desperately need to build both our lines, we need a stud FS and a few LB's, RB's and WR's.
Yes, of course I would love to have the next generation Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, who wouldn't. I am in no way minimizing the need for a young franchise qb of the future. But we won Sb's with Doug Williams and Mark Rypien.
IMO fixing the offensive line and getting a stud NT is more important at this time than anything else and will lead to immediate improvement on the field. The odds of drafting the next stud franchise Qb with the 15th pick is very remote. Landing a stud offensive lineman with the 15th pick is easier, given that there are 5 (OL) positions of players to pick from as opposed to one (QB). The pool of players you are picking from is bigger. Plus ceters and guards are not valued and there are usually several really good ones well past the 15th pick.
Drafting for need is a dangerous game that leads to reaching for a player that are not worthy. Kind of like a few years ago when we thought our biggest need was tall WR's. :cheeky-sm
My school of thought when drafting players when it is your turn to pick and there is nobody there that fits your talent/need equation perfectly, then go big. Statistically, there are less talented big men out there in the world then there regular size people. A stud 6'5" 300 athlete that plays amazing on the football field is harder to fined than a 5'9" to 6'4" 210 pound person/athlete. Just like in the NBA the stud 7' center is hard to find, there are not as many around.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Armstrong proved himself this year as well.

Even if all the guys that stepped up yesterday only pan out to be quality depth guys, that's not something that should be looked down upon. Quality depth is something we've been seriously lacking.

And if we play five young players in high-playing time roles hoping for adequacy, and just one of them turns into a star on our team (someone like Antonio Pierce), then we're really sitting pretty.

We really don't have to know how they are going to develop to go down this path. The defense hasn't had much by way of reinforcements added since the 2009 draft, and it's had wholesale changes since then. We need the best performance we can get.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by iRepDMV

I must say very impressed. Certainly a plus in our rebuilding process. Were only gonna get younger.

So far we got 7 draft picks for the 2011 NFL Draft. I think by draft time that count will go up to around 10.

1st
2nd
5th
5th (From Saints in J. Brown trade)
6th
7th
7th (From Colts in Tryon trade)

I can see more 2011 draft picks coming from a McNabb trade, Haynesworth trade, and possibly Moss or one of our tight ends in a trade. McNabb would probably go for a 5th rounder (I hope for a 4th but i doubt it. Thats what we gave up for him. His value has certainly decreased since the start of the season). Haynesworth would probably go for a 4th rounder (Hes still a beast, hes just stubborn). As for Moss or the one the tight ends, i see fourth rounders as well. Now just coming to mind, Andre Carter could possibly be traded as well..for 6th rounder or 7th rounder. This would leave us to around 11 draft picks.

I hear ya, but I don't think we're going to get much for McNabb, Haynesworth. The problem is that other teams know we don't want Haynesworth anymore. They will most likely wait it out til he's released. AH will not be back w/ the Skins. Possibly the same w/ McNabb. You know he wants to start and it doesn't look like he's in our plans. I'm not sure what we can get. Fred Davis might be our only tradeable piece if we want to trade him. It will be interesting though.

[diehard]

Is Barnes good enough to start at CB or safety? He may need to be.

[Monkeydad]

I'd rather see Barnes at FS, he looked awesome there. But, I think he COULD play nickel CB, but I'm not sure he's a starting CB. FS, yes.

His size loses the jump balls and he likes going for the big hit like LaRon. That's better suited for a safety spot.

Is Buchanon signed for another year? I could see DHall and Buchanon being our starters unless we really score with a later-round CB draft pick who surprises us.

Or, we get Nnamdi.

[mlmpetert]

^you guys think Carlos is gone for sure?

[diehard]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

^you guys think Carlos is gone for sure?

Who knows for sure? It's unlikely the team will be able to address every need with top-tier talent through the draft and free agency. The question is who's ready to step it up in a starter role and hold it down?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

^you guys think Carlos is gone for sure?

Yes. He's 30, NOT improving yearly, can cover but can't catch and has the ego to demand more money than he's worth.

Hopefully WE won't bet he team to overpay him. If somehow he wants to stay around for a low price, sure...keep him, he's good at coverage. But, I don't see that happening, now is his only chance to test the FA market and get paid for the last time in his career.

[Monkeydad]

Redskins in-house replacements -- defense

NT Anthony Bryant—Is 165 snaps (out of 1,088 defensive snaps in 2010, 16.2 percent) at nose tackle enough for the Redskins to figure out if Bryant is starter material? That is a huge question this offseason and a lot of what the organization does will pivot on the answer. If Bryant, 29, can start and play as well as he did the last couple of games of the season, the focus will be on getting a backup nose tackle. Should Jim Haslett and Mike Shanahan be uncomfortable with the notion of relying on Bryant, who had all of nine games with three starts under his belt in four NFL seasons coming into 2010, as the starter, major resources will have to go to finding a reliable first-string nose tackle.

DE Jeremy Jarmon—The 2010 season essentially was lost for Jarmon. While recovering from major knee surgery he converted from defensive end to linebacker and then back to end. He ended up playing just 69 snaps, about one game’s worth. At 283, he’s light for a 3-4 defensive end, who usually run 300 pounds and up. But he has good athletic ability and the coaches are likely to give him every chance to be a key reserve, and perhaps a starter.

LB Perry Riley—This is another reserve who saw very limited playing time last year, just 10 snaps on defense. Still, there is likely to be a need at inside linebacker as starter Rocky McIntosh is expected to head to greener pastures on a team that will let him play outside backer in a 4-3 scheme. He made a few plays when he was in the lineup but, again, that’s an extremely small sample size. The Redskins drafted him hoping that he could fill a hole created by the possible departure of McIntosh and Riley will be a candidate for more playing time, if not as a starter.

LB Rob Jackson—Stop me if you’ve heard this before—Jackson is a young defensive player who will be evaluated based on very little playing time. He has just 10 games of playing time under his belt in since being a seventh-round pick in what has been a mostly disappointing 2008 draft class and he didn’t have a regular role on defense until late last year. Three tackles and one sack in two games make for a pretty thin stat line. The team needs another pass rusher opposite Brian Orakpo and while it would be nice if Jackson could fill that spot it is unlikely that they will count on him to be a starter. Still, he could have some good value in certain situational packages.

CB Kevin Barnes—He showed some versatility last year when injuries forced him into the starting lineup as a safety. Barnes made some plays there, including an overtime interception in Jacksonville that set up the game-winning score. Still, his future is at cornerback and his opportunity may come this year as two of the top three corners, Carlos Rogers and Phillip Buchanon, are free agents. Barnes played 306 snaps last year, most of them in the last half of the season, and he played better as he got more experience.

CB Byron Westbrook—After two years on the practice squad and two years of contributing on special teams, is Westbrook ready to take the next step? He certainly has paid his dues and he has good speed, an element that largely is lacking on the Redskins’ defense. How the Redskins handle the cornerback spot will be an indication of how they plan to proceed going forward. If they trust Westbrook and Barnes to team with DeAngelo Hall as the top cornerbacks (or if they expend a high draft pick on a corner), they are on a youth movement. If they either re-sign Buchanon and/or Rogers or go the veteran free agent route, the signs will point towards being in a “win now” mode.

S Macho Harris—He played 15 games for the Eagles in 2009, starting eight at free safety. But nobody was in a great hurry to pick him up after the Eagles cut him before last season. Could one team’s trash end up being another team’s treasure? While he did not play much on defense for the Redskins, 69 snaps, the coaches certainly can use the video from his games with the Eagles to evaluate him and decide if he can be part of the mix in 2011.

[diehard]

Thanks for the reality check Buster. The title of this thread might as well read, 'I'm unimpressed and disugusted with the lack of talent on this team'. Yes, this year the team has many draft picks but, most of them are in the later rounds where you'll find more Eric Cooks, Selvish Capers, and Kareem Moores. Let's face it. There aren't a lot of late round picks who become perennial pro-bowlers.