Is locker going in the first or second?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

And who will be this year's Jimmy Clausen?

Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ryan Mallet. Junior QB coached by Bobby Petrino. These days Petrino is the early 2000's equivalent of Jeff Tedford in that Petrino is considered a great QB coach at the college level yet his players have difficulties transitioning to the pro's in spite of running a pro system at the colleigate level.

Mallet won't interview well and from what I hear he'll be lucky to have an average Wonderlic score. He does have the leadership qualities teams look for along with the arm but he won't wow you in the interview room with charisma like a Tebow or Ryan nor the football IQ of a Manning or Brees.

I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd probably say Mallet too...but Tedford is looking a bit redeemed these days with Aaron Rodgers

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

I don't have an answer for you, but I would assume it's the same reason that a guy with the numbers of Matt Schaub went in the third round.

Redman's become one of the best backups in football in Atlanta. That's not nothing, I suppose.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, pretty much. Patrino is still looking for his own version of Aaron Rodgers at the pro level. Unfortunately the closest he's gotten is Jake Plummer. Other Petrino coached QB's include Dave Ragone, Stefan LeFors, Chris Redman, and Brian Brohm many of whom serve as poster childs for why teams can't rely on using mid round draft picks to find franchise QB.

Lol in fact I'm convinced, if Chris Redman was coming out in this draft he would have a following that would make both Andy Dalton and Kellen Moore jealous, well maybe not Kellen Moore but certainly Andy Dalton. I mean if I told people that there would be a QB available as late as the third round with four years of starting experience in a pro-like system with 29 TD passes each of the last two years paired with 15 and 13 INT's as well as a 71% and 65% completion percentage (not to mention 4,042 and 3,647 yards during his last two seasons), well safe to say the man crushes would be flying left and right.

Which actually begs the question.....why the hell was Chris Redman a third round pick in the first place? I mean I know he went on to be a bust but as a prospect he certainly seems like someone that should have fetched a first round grade.

This is the perfect example of why you don't use stats as the main reason in personnel decisions.

Good numbers help get attention to good players, but nfl teams should use stats to help decide AFTER evaluating the film on players.