McNabb's agents take aim at the Shanahans, Mike responds...

[Brody81]

The problem with some fans around here is that they are use to destroying the foundation of the team through impatience and criticism. And an owner who cannot stay the course to see a coaches dream put into reality.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more....

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by juskins

I saw and heard what Kyle Shannahan said. I personally think he (McNabb) and his agent are trying to win the day by playing up this disrespectful angle. Don't you?

He can't hack this offense. Just maybe Mike is showing compassion by making it an issue (benching) for McNabb and his agent so they can go elsewhere and talk football.

As far as I'm concerned, too much has been made of the benching of McNabb. There appears to be far too much meddling by the media as well as fans regarding a coaches' decision. He shouldn't have to explain to the media who plays and when, it's his perogative, and no further explanation should be necessary.

Donovan McNabb is not above being benched, I've seen just about every QB that has ever played the game get benched at one time or another. I thought he should have been benched long before he was.

[Nomad]

Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Chad Dukes Rant On the Redskins 59-28 Loss « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio

Who heard this rant, yet. Classic!

Dukes needs to put it down. I happened to be listening to 106 when he delivered his infamous rant. He says he's been a Redskin fan for thirty one years and feel the team owes him something. Well, I've been a Redskin fan for almost twice that long, and have dumped thousand's into the organization. I saw a lot of bad long before he became a fan, back to the time when bad was worse than that. They don't owe me anything, even if they did I could never be repaid.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I said it once and will say it again......

McNabb is a good QB, but he's older now, injury prone, can't scramble to save his life anymore, and throws dirt balls. All this I complained about last Easter Sunday when it was announced the Skins picked him up. He's a HOF no doubt, but that doesn't mean he'll solve our problems. But.... now we have him. We either coach him up on this style/scheme or trade him away.

I'd keep him if he doesn't mind being second fiddle to Grossman until he learns the scheme better but there are major issues then perhaps trading him for whatever we can get is best.

Thebigger key to McNabbs mess would be for him to address the media about what he did say and what his manager has stated. Funny how he avoids the media questions, but supposedly is on the Shanahans side. WTF?
Either admit what was said or put your manager in his place and have "him" address the media about his statements..... and apologize.

I read today that McNabb's agent is saying that he and Donovan are on the same page. Go figure.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by juskins

Well, he sure didn't look good not winning for us. You are so upset with the way Shannahan has handled all aspects of his coaching, right?

He played Donovan in 13 games and then bad mouthed him. And what did Donovan do in those 13 games? Lets see, he kept the defense on the field and gave the offense a rest. Obviously, Shannahan was pissed at the franchise QB who can't learn his offense.

I would bench him too. Oh, it's not about the benching but the lack of respect for McNabb. His game sucks and thanks for providing no gamesmanship or character as a player on the field. It sure does seem as if he screwed us. Balls under thrown or overthrown and the unnecessary sacks. What do you think?

I have no respect for that aspect of his unprofessional game.

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

Good post, best I read so far, cause I'm sure it's all DM fault, and weather you agree with Shanny or not, (which I don't) I agree moving DM is important for the team, but there is a better way to doing it.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't care what Shanny did over a decade ago in Denver. Right now, Andy Reid > Mike Shanahan.

Philly fans are laughing out loud at us right now. There's a reason Reid didn't bat an eye at shipping McNabb to a division rival.

Merry Xmas, Redskins fans!

Because he knew the Redskins had no offensive line, no running game and no receivers?

[Bigreds77]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Good post, best I read so far, cause I'm sure it's all DM fault, and weather you agree with Shanny or not, (which I don't) I agree moving DM is important for the team, but there is a better way to doing it.

I like the move it sends a message to everyone.Play hard or go home.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. Shanny's only signature move thus far has been a gigantic fail on many levels- giving up such important picks to get McNabb, the week 8 benching and ensuing joke of an explanation, and the recent McNabb fiasco. Really piss poor.

And the Haynesworth saga. Shanny really looks pretty bad right now. He needs a few years to see if he can work his thing, but this year was embarrassing.

What about it? Shanahan tried to trade him, but there weren't any takers. So he figured he might as well get what he could for his services.

AH was determined to be a hemorrhoid no matter what. We'd be in the same position with him even if Joe Gibbs was the head coach.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So based on you comments you are okay with Shannahan throwing away a second and fourth next year, when he clearly didn't perform a proper vetting process prior to trading for McNabb? Trust me I am OK with the benching of McNabb, I just think him finding out from the media as opposed to his boss is a poor decision. I think most people actually think McNabb is a stand up guy so I don't get your comment on no character.

Going forward I'm sure this won't happen again. I don't like not having picks no matter who gave them up for what reason. At the time the trade happen most would have made that trade.

You can't do anything about it now. It's a good thing we have a coach who sees ahead and realize that the Skins would not reach Shannahan's goals with McNabb. Let's stop with the "but he gave away picks for a washed up player". It has happen before Shannahan and hopefully it will stop because everyone has learned a lesson.

I said on the playing field he had no character. Stop with the nit picking, move on.

[Beemnseven]

It was a bad trade, no doubt -- impossible to defend at this point. But unlike some others, I'm not a "one strike and you're out!" type person. I'm willing to allow for a mistake here and there. Losing on those draft picks was big without question, but I'll still take a mistake by Mike Shanahan in year one versus continuing the pattern with the umpteenth mistake by Vinny in year 12.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

It was a bad trade, no doubt -- impossible to defend at this point. But unlike some others, I'm not a "one strike and you're out!" type person. I'm willing to allow for a mistake here and there. Losing on those draft picks was big without question, but I'll still take a mistake by Mike Shanahan in year one versus continuing the pattern with the umpteenth mistake by Vinny in year 12.

If the mistake is caused by the same flawed thought process, why do him the benefit of resetting the counter? Just keep adding on until things actually change.

[Beemnseven]

If Mike Shanahan is still making those types of trades in year three, and the team still hasn't progressed, then it'll be time to move on. Like I said though, until he demonstrates a pattern of those mistakes, I'm willing to let this one go. I don't like it, but I'll let it go.

With Vinny it was outright insanity -- he would make a mistake like this, and keep trying it over and over. But unlike some others, I'm not going to call for Shanahan's head for one f*ck up.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

If Mike Shanahan is still making those types of trades in year three, and the team still hasn't progressed, then it'll be time to move on. Like I said though, until he demonstrates a pattern of those mistakes, I'm willing to let this one go. I don't like it, but I'll let it go.

With Vinny it was outright insanity -- he would make a mistake like this, and keep trying it over and over. But unlike some others, I'm not going to call for Shanahan's head for one f*ck up.

Agreed. Some patience is required as a fan. I know none of us want to hear this since we have been going through it for years, but that's how I see it.