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Old 06-19-2010, 04:23 PM   #1
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Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown

Is it really so much better if Jamaal Brown gets schooled by Ware in Week 1? Seems like, even if Williams ended up needed help the whole game, at least we get a learning experience out of it.
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Is it really so much better if Jamaal Brown gets schooled by Ware in Week 1? Seems like, even if Williams ended up needed help the whole game, at least we get a learning experience out of it.
He won't, or at least not that bad, because last time the saints played the Cowboys, Jammal Brown held DW sackless the whole night. It was his 3rd or 4th year in the league (DW's) so yes JB has played him when hes at his best.
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He won't, or at least not that bad, because last time the saints played the Cowboys, Jammal Brown held DW sackless the whole night. It was his 3rd or 4th year in the league (DW's) so yes JB has played him when hes at his best.
How much can you conclude from one game? Ware has gone silent for streaks of three games at a time, and has been schooled by Cooley before in the running game. He's an inconsistent player.

Point being, you've got a pretty decent chance of neutralizing him with Trent Williams out there as long as you've got help for him. Brown is pretty out of position at LT, and the hope is that Williams will flourish there. I don't want to start the process of trying to put a band-aid over a draft reach, just put Williams out at LT and let him teach himself the position from the start. We'll be better for it.
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Re: Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown

Here is another multiple to add to multiple sources.

Redskins Insider - Redskins possibly close to landing tackle Jammal Brown
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Here is another multiple to add to multiple sources.

Redskins Insider - Redskins possibly close to landing tackle Jammal Brown
No extension yet for Jammal Brown | ProFootballTalk.com
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Washington owes the Eagles a third- or fourth-round pick in 2011 for McNabb, based on how the quarterback plays or the team performs. If the Redskins win nine games, or go to the playoffs, or McNabb gets selected to the Pro Bowl, then Philadelphia will receive Washington's third-round pick and New Orleans will get Washington's fourth. If none of those happen, then the Eagles will get the Redskins' fourth-round pick and the Saints will get the Redskins' third-round pick.
Looks like their plan is to trade back in 2011 with their first and second round picks. Of course trading for a pro bowl tackle and QB in the same offseason is easily worth loosing a 3rd and 4th round pick. Easily a far cry from the days where we would spend those picks on the likes of Brandon Lloyd and TJ Ducket.
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Looks like their plan is to trade back in 2011 with their first and second round picks. Of course trading for a pro bowl tackle and QB in the same offseason is easily worth loosing a 3rd and 4th round pick. Easily a far cry from the days where we would spend those picks on the likes of Brandon Lloyd and TJ Ducket.
Source: Washington Redskins agree to deal for Jammal Brown of New Orleans Saints - ESPN

Yeah, McNabb and Brown is a much improved haul from the days where we used to get one year rentals on bad players for the same price.

Maybe by next regime, we'll start getting picks for our players!
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Source: Washington Redskins agree to deal for Jammal Brown of New Orleans Saints - ESPN

Yeah, McNabb and Brown is a much improved haul from the days where we used to get one year rentals on bad players for the same price.

Maybe by next regime, we'll start getting picks for our players!
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Source: Washington Redskins agree to deal for Jammal Brown of New Orleans Saints - ESPN

Yeah, McNabb and Brown is a much improved haul from the days where we used to get one year rentals on bad players for the same price.

Maybe by next regime, we'll start getting picks for our players!
Why wait until the next regime? Send Lazy-Ass Albert for a 3rd rounder and can of PBR...
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Is it really so much better if Jamaal Brown gets schooled by Ware in Week 1? Seems like, even if Williams ended up needed help the whole game, at least we get a learning experience out of it.
Buzz kill! Brown will do fine.
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Is it really so much better if Jamaal Brown gets schooled by Ware in Week 1? Seems like, even if Williams ended up needed help the whole game, at least we get a learning experience out of it.
I don't think he will get owned Tripp. Brown has been a dominant player before his injury, and I believe even with the injury he is instantly head and shoulders above what we currently have at Tackle. I can personally vouch for him being in shape, I have seen him at the gym every week day this spring/summer.
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I don't think he will get owned Tripp. Brown has been a dominant player before his injury, and I believe even with the injury he is instantly head and shoulders above what we currently have at Tackle. I can personally vouch for him being in shape, I have seen him at the gym every week day this summer.
Brown has always had his struggles against the pass, though those appeared to go away when he got paired up with a healthy Brees. McNabb isn't quite the lightning quick trigger man that Brees is (nor is he as clueless in the pocket as Aaron Brooks was), so a lot of his pass protection issues are going to resurface this year.

However, with a move over to the right side, he's not going to be facing the other team's top pass rusher 30 times a game. And he fixes the major weakness in our line, which was that the RT position could have previously been exploited between 5-7 times per game at the choosing of the defensive coaches.

Brown doesn't give us a pair of bookends at tackle that we can rely on for the next 6 to 8 years, but he'll be more than competent in the role we have for him. I generally give players the benefit of the doubt when it comes to conditioning, but it's certainly good information that he's definately in playing shape and will be a contributor from the first day of training camp.
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Brown has always had his struggles against the pass, though those appeared to go away when he got paired up with a healthy Brees. McNabb isn't quite the lightning quick trigger man that Brees is (nor is he as clueless in the pocket as Aaron Brooks was), so a lot of his pass protection issues are going to resurface this year.

However, with a move over to the right side, he's not going to be facing the other team's top pass rusher 30 times a game. And he fixes the major weakness in our line, which was that the RT position could have previously been exploited between 5-7 times per game at the choosing of the defensive coaches.

Brown doesn't give us a pair of bookends at tackle that we can rely on for the next 6 to 8 years, but he'll be more than competent in the role we have for him. I generally give players the benefit of the doubt when it comes to conditioning, but it's certainly good information that he's definately in playing shape and will be a contributor from the first day of training camp.
Going into last year Scout's Inc considered Brown to be the 5th best tackle in the league:
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Comment: Brown has been New Orleans' starting left tackle since being drafted in the first round of the 2005 draft. He is a good-sized tackle with excellent balance, body control and athleticism. He does a good job of keeping his pad level down and blocking with leverage. He can kick step out to pick up the speed rusher off the edge and still react and adjust to react to counter moves. He could do a better job of finishing his drive blocks off as he tends to let opponents recover and work their way back into the play. While Brown might not be an elite left tackle he certainly provides a quality starter that can hold down the left side.
Wouldn't have guessed though that he was considered a top 5 tackle based on that draft report. Just for Comparisons sake Chris Samuels was rated a 79.


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lol could any title mean less...let's chill with the comparisons for a minute, Brown isn't even on the time and Trent Williams is a green rookie. I don't think we are even in the conversation of having an OL in the top half of the league yet.
I find your lack of faith disturbing. However while we're at it I forgot possibly the best pair on that list. Roos and Stewart from Tenneesee. You don't get a 2,000 yard rusher with nothing but a shifty running back. Right now I'd say that it's between Miami and Tenneesee for the best pair of bookends.

Also as a disclaimer I forgot to say that we could have the best pair in a year or two, not this year though we will be among the best when it comes to bookends, just not the top pair. Jacksonville has a pretty amazing duo on the rise in Monroe and Britton and San Fran is not far behind with Staley and Davis. In the end though I think Williams is going to develop a lot faster then people think. He might not have a Joe Thomas or Jake Long type rookie season but he's still going to be very good in 2010.
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Brown has always had his struggles against the pass, though those appeared to go away when he got paired up with a healthy Brees. McNabb isn't quite the lightning quick trigger man that Brees is (nor is he as clueless in the pocket as Aaron Brooks was), so a lot of his pass protection issues are going to resurface this year.

However, with a move over to the right side, he's not going to be facing the other team's top pass rusher 30 times a game. And he fixes the major weakness in our line, which was that the RT position could have previously been exploited between 5-7 times per game at the choosing of the defensive coaches.

Brown doesn't give us a pair of bookends at tackle that we can rely on for the next 6 to 8 years, but he'll be more than competent in the role we have for him. I generally give players the benefit of the doubt when it comes to conditioning, but it's certainly good information that he's definately in playing shape and will be a contributor from the first day of training camp.
I think if he returns to his old form, we got a heck of a deal.
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Old 06-20-2010, 04:36 PM   #15
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I think if he returns to his old form, we got a heck of a deal.
If he returns to his old form, we'll see Portis return to his old form. And we'll see our quarterback actually have time to throw a deep ball. I know it sounds crazy, but its true. And I think, officially, its called a "bomb". I can't remember for sure, but I think thats what its called AND WE'LL ACTUALLY GET TO SEE A REDSKINS QUARTERBACK THROW ONE!!!!
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