Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

[MTK]

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Flashy free agent signings and predominantly drafting skill positions are no way to build a team. I think the Skins have proven that by now. The next 3 drafts should be dedicated to drafting O-Line, D-Line, Linebackers and a franchise QB. Get a new coach and new GM and come up with a 3 year plan to restore this team to greatness... or at least to being respectable.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

I may be in the minority but I am not that unhappy with Vinny's moves since Gibbs left.

I think he has assembled a lot of talented players and the coaches are not effectively using them.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

Not to mention that, by all accounts, Zorn was a Vinny hire. He made a strong push for the guy. Failure by Zorn is failure by Vinny, even apart from his personnel decisions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Ok that is fair. So let's start with the top. Send a message and fire the head coach. He is incompetent and when you want to change a culture, you get rid of the leader. Blache can go to, I really don't care, but at least he has proven over several years that he can effectively lead a defensive group.

Zorn, had never led jacksh-- before he was handed the job last year and we are paying for it every week. Once the league got some tape on him and figured out his tendencies, his offense has been castrated by good and bad teams.

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Firing anyone right now is a little too reactionary and knee-jerk for my taste.

If we're sitting at 1-6 at the bye, ok, I might understand firing someone. But even then, it's not going to help us this year.

The best thing we can hope for is Zorn gets this ship righted, somehow. If not you clean house the day after the season ends and go from there.

I just don't see it happening. Zorn is getting worse at game management. He makes Jerry Glanville look like Joe Gibbs version 2.

He isn't coaching the games like they are his last, he is coaching every play like it is his last.

He is crumbling under the pressure right before our eyes and I do not believe in just throwing away a season, not when it could be saved.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's time to forget about what the defense has done in the past and focus on what they're doing now, and that's not much.

They can't get off the field right now on 3rd downs, they've given up 100 yard rushers in back to back weeks, and the overall effort seems uninspired and lazy. There's a lot of blame to go around right now, nobody gets a pass in my book.

Exactly. I think the "D" gets a pass from some people because

#1 They've been good in the past
#2 The offense is having trouble scoring

Neither one is an excuse for giving up so many first downs and not being able to get off the field. Our defense doesn't worry anyone. Not even the Lions. They had scoring drives of 99-74-86, and 85 yards. That is pathetic.