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Old 09-28-2009, 08:10 AM   #1
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

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How about this novel idea???

Let the next coach who comes in next bring HIS OWN COACHES to the team and have him fill out his coaching ranks instead of doing him "a favor" by hiring a partial staff list of former coaching greats.

Seriously...the fact that people, not you skins89moss, are choosing coaches to stay like they're in a school lunch a la carte line is more of the same Snyder-tactics if you ask me.

Teams bring in coaches because they are qualified to coach and manage the execution of their team, TO INCLUDE THE COACHING STAFF.
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:29 PM   #2
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

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You caught me sleeping actually...if you noticed from 9AM-1PM my posting frequency trails off. That's when I crawl back into my coffin : )
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:24 AM   #3
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

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How about this novel idea???

Let the next coach who comes in next bring HIS OWN COACHES to the team and have him fill out his coaching ranks instead of doing him "a favor" by hiring a partial staff list of former coaching greats.

Seriously...the fact that people, not you skins89moss, are choosing coaches to stay like they're in a school lunch a la carte line is more of the same Snyder-tactics if you ask me.

Teams bring in coaches because they are qualified to coach and manage the execution of their team, TO INCLUDE THE COACHING STAFF.
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I agree that the new coach should select his coaching staff unlike Zorn because Gibbs retired and Synder did not want Greg Williams. He was turned down by qualified coaches but unstead settle on Zorn. Greg Williams would not stand for Synders BS I believe that was the main reason he was not consider. Just My opinion.
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

I absolutely don't think he still has it, and I said as much yesterday http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post597656

As I said then, I think part of the reason that we didn't do more to address the O-line in the offseason is that Vinny and Dan still think that Buges is some guru who can turn any group of 5 fat asses into The Hogs 2.0. We've clearly need better players on the line for some time but we've done the bare minimum to address the problem. Why?

The fact that TWO weeks in a row we couldn't gain one yard that we desperately needed tells you that there is a major problem with the line, and I think it starts with the top down.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:20 AM   #5
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I absolutely don't think he still has it, and I said as much yesterday http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post597656

As I said then, I think part of the reason that we didn't do more to address the O-line in the offseason is that Vinny and Dan still think that Buges is some guru who can turn any group of 5 fat asses into The Hogs 2.0. We've clearly need better players on the line for some time but we've done the bare minimum to address the problem. Why?

The fact that TWO weeks in a row we couldn't gain one yard that we desperately needed tells you that there is a major problem with the line, and I think it starts with the top down.
Yea 4th and goal back to back games and we can't bust a grape. Our O-Line is getting pushed back and Portis has now hole to run threw. O-Line better get head out of ass or our RB will get killed.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:26 AM   #6
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

Ok I'm off work at 6am and will go home and crash out. I wonder when I wake up will there be a breaking news on ESPN that states Redskins fired HC, or DC. Be back on tonight.
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Ok I'm off work at 6am and will go home and crash out. I wonder when I wake up will there be a breaking news on ESPN that states Redskins fired HC, or DC. Be back on tonight.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, chances are nobody is getting canned.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:26 AM   #8
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

I don't think Bugel is the problem as far as the ineffectivness of the OL, it would be great if he had some better players to work with. It's no secret why Samuels is our best O-lineman, the best we do after him is two 3rd rounders and a FA as starters.
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I don't think Bugel is the problem as far as the ineffectivness of the OL, it would be great if he had some better players to work with. It's no secret why Samuels is our best O-lineman, the best we do after him is two 3rd rounders and a FA as starters.
Ok so yiou think he gets a free pass. Unlike Zorn and Blache who are on the hot seat. Im just saying he has the rep. for being a great O-Line coach in the past but maybe he has lost his edge to coach up our players.
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Ok so yiou think he gets a free pass. Unlike Zorn and Blache who are on the hot seat. Im just saying he has the rep. for being a great O-Line coach in the past but maybe he has lost his edge to coach up our players.
I'm a firm believer in the old saying "A carpenter is only as good as his tools" Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Bugel and his OL are in need of better talent, watching the line perform over the last eleven games reinforces that inescapeable fact.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:27 AM   #11
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

It wasn't like our offensive line deficiencies were a secret going into this year. Whether Bugel still has it or not I don't know, but it seems ridiculous to call for his job as a result of the poor play of what everybody already knew was by far our weakest unit.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:55 AM   #12
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

Yes, the COACH should pick all of his coaches.

Before the season i thought that the key to our season was our run game. Well, three games in and I'm not impressed at all. I'm grading our run game a D+ at the moment.

On the 4 and 1 play yesterday a run call was not a horrible call but (before Brian Billick called it) i was thinking it would be a great play time for play action. We ran it and our oline got stuffed.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:21 AM   #13
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

Do I dare to say that Buffalo is playing with a make-shift offensive line, and they have put up more of a fight than our team?
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:21 AM   #14
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Re: Does Joe Bugel still have it?

Well bottom line Buges ain't getting it done. Good tools or not. There are and continue to be very cabable assistants in this league that get it done no matter what, year in and year out. Sure we haven't drafted offensive lineman in the top rounds in years, but how come Buges wasn't making his case? And if he was, why is it that no one was listening?

It's a crying shame we're seeing Clinton Portis, who could potentially break the Redskins all time rushing record, not able to get one yard in crunch time. Sure there's plenty of blame to go around, but you have to look at leadership first and you have to look at your coaching staff. What absolutely boggles the mind is that none of Zorn's assistant head coaches are his folks. He was essentially handed Gibbs 2.0 leftovers and told to make do. Man.

But the bigger story here is that nothing brings out the cracks in the facade like losing.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:24 AM   #15
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Well bottom line Buges ain't getting it done. Good tools or not. There are and continue to be very cabable assistants in this league that get it done no matter what, year in and year out. Sure we haven't drafted offensive lineman in the top rounds in years, but how come Buges wasn't making his case? And if he was, why is it that no one was listening?

It's a crying shame we're seeing Clinton Portis, who could potentially break the Redskins all time rushing record, not able to get one yard in crunch time. Sure there's plenty of blame to go around, but you have to look at leadership first and you have to look at your coaching staff. What absolutely boggles the mind is that none of Zorn's assistant head coaches are his folks. He was essentially handed Gibbs 2.0 leftovers and told to make do. Man.

But the bigger story here is that nothing brings out the cracks in the facade like losing.
I don't think Clinton Portis is scaring any defenses though.
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