Romo gets dissed again.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Exactly. Has any QB, no matter how good he is, ever won a Super Bowl with a sucky team? Even Marino couldn't do it.

Eli?

Kidding.

Uh, Brady's first SB winning team was pretty run of the mill, and not all that much better in the first round of the playoffs. I think, moreover, there have been plenty of near-miss super bowl stories from not-so-great teams, like Marino, as you mentioned, but also Warner this year, the 2003 Panthers, the 1985 and 1996 Patriots as well.

I guess the Raiders of 1980 would probably be called the "worst" super bowl winner of all time, but Jim Plunkett isn't exactly on the verge of Canton. Anyway, looks like your big picture point holds. Downright sucky teams don't win the SB.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Eli?

Kidding.

Uh, Brady's first SB winning team was pretty run of the mill, and not all that much better in the first round of the playoffs. I think, moreover, there have been plenty of near-miss super bowl stories from not-so-great teams, like Marino, as you mentioned, but also Warner this year, the 2003 Panthers, the 1985 and 1996 Patriots as well.

I guess the Raiders of 1980 would probably be called the "worst" super bowl winner of all time, but Jim Plunkett isn't exactly on the verge of Canton. Anyway, looks like your big picture point holds. Downright sucky teams don't win the SB.

Define good, because they played very well and were coached well. That is a good team. If you are talking talent, sure I agree.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Define good, because they played very well and were coached well. That is a good team. If you are talking talent, sure I agree.

There's probably something to Cowher and Martz getting outcoached in the playoffs there. By run of the mill, I mean "fringe playoff team for most of the regular season."

Of course, you win your division, you get to the playoffs, but I don't think that if it happened a year later (after the divisional reorganization) that they would have had a bye in the playoffs, and without that bye week, there's more or less zero chance of that team coming out of the AFC.

What they started, of course, was the launching pad of more than a couple hall of fame careers, and the very genesis of one of the best 5 year runs in NFL history under Brady, but I think that team was more in the right place at the right time than anything else.

Though I want to extend full credit for playing THE perfect game against the Rams, much like the Giants played THE perfect game against the Pats 6 years later.