Braylon Edwards trade talk

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Then Like I said Matty ...you guys take him.We just got rid of a prima donna reciever and we don't need another TO type ...that is all about me and not the team.Boldin(speed ain't his middel name) had 1 good year without LF ,2003 as someone here said...............6 years ago and lets not forget the cards have not been a powerhouse for years .......things fell the right way for them.If I have to I'll take Edwards over Boldin anytime and twice on Sunday .What makes him(Boldin) good ....maybe having a QB that can't run or LF on the otherside to go to?

Ok, I'll bite.

Lets compare the two.

LF averages 5.6 catches and 78.6 Yards per game. AB averages 6.3 CPG(rounded up from 6.275) and 81.2 YPG. The only thing Fitz is better at it he has 6 more TDs than Boldin in 4 less games. That equates to a little more than 1 td a year. Last year though, Boldin actually had 11tds in only 12 games while it took Fitz 16 games to score 12 times. Boldin has 4 1,000 yard seasons to Fitzgeralds 3. People think Fitzgerald is way better than Boldin and the Stats just don't back that up. ANd lets not forget, he got his face broke in week 4 against the Jets and was back 3 games later. IMO Fitz IS the better receiver but not by the stretch that you make is sound like.

Boldin is one hell of a receiver. When the season came around he stopped complaining and played ball hard. He had one emotional outburst at his coach and now he is a trouble maker? Why isn't anybody saying that about Kurt Warner? He was in his coaches face after every failed 3rd down.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Ok, I'll bite.

Lets compare the two.

LF averages 5.6 catches and 78.6 Yards per game. AB averages 6.3 CPG(rounded up from 6.275) and 81.2 YPG. The only thing Fitz is better at it he has 6 more TDs than Boldin in 4 less games. That equates to a little more than 1 td a year. Last year though, Boldin actually had 11tds in only 12 games while it took Fitz 16 games to score 12 times. Boldin has 4 1,000 yard seasons to Fitzgeralds 3. People think Fitzgerald is way better than Boldin and the Stats just don't back that up. ANd lets not forget, he got his face broke in week 4 against the Jets and was back 3 games later. IMO Fitz IS the better receiver but not by the stretch that you make is sound like.

Boldin is one hell of a receiver. When the season came around he stopped complaining and played ball hard. He had one emotional outburst at his coach and now he is a trouble maker? Why isn't anybody saying that about Kurt Warner? He was in his coaches face after every failed 3rd down.

You forgot one thing that Fitz is better at - keeping defenses honest.

As I said before, Boldin is an excellent player. I am not knocking him. He can be your #1 as he showed previously. But he is not a speed burner. With Boldin as your #1 defenses can cheat a little against the deep ball. Defenses cannot cheat the same way with Fitz.

With Boldin as your #1, you sooner or later will wish for a better deep threat, as the Cards already showed by bringing in Fitz.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You forgot one thing that Fitz is better at - keeping defenses honest.

As I said before, Boldin is an excellent player. I am not knocking him. He can be your #1 as he showed previously. But he is not a speed burner. With Boldin as your #1 defenses can cheat a little against the deep ball. Defenses cannot cheat the same way with Fitz.

With Boldin as your #1, you sooner or later will wish for a better deep threat, as the Cards already showed by bringing in Fitz.

Just for the sake of argument Santana is our burner, so Boldin fits in perfectly with us. Again im not talking about giving picks, strictly as a player who could fit into the system.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

Just for the sake of argument Santana is our burner, so Boldin fits in perfectly with us. Again im not talking about giving picks, strictly as a player who could fit into the system.

Yup, you are right. But talk earlier in the thread concerned whether Boldin was a true #1. And notice that, if your argument is correct, this means we can't trade Moss for Boldin as some suggested.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Ok, I'll bite.

Lets compare the two.

LF averages 5.6 catches and 78.6 Yards per game. AB averages 6.3 CPG(rounded up from 6.275) and 81.2 YPG. The only thing Fitz is better at it he has 6 more TDs than Boldin in 4 less games. That equates to a little more than 1 td a year. Last year though, Boldin actually had 11tds in only 12 games while it took Fitz 16 games to score 12 times. Boldin has 4 1,000 yard seasons to Fitzgeralds 3. People think Fitzgerald is way better than Boldin and the Stats just don't back that up. ANd lets not forget, he got his face broke in week 4 against the Jets and was back 3 games later. IMO Fitz IS the better receiver but not by the stretch that you make is sound like.

Boldin is one hell of a receiver. When the season came around he stopped complaining and played ball hard. He had one emotional outburst at his coach and now he is a trouble maker? Why isn't anybody saying that about Kurt Warner? He was in his coaches face after every failed 3rd down.

Kurt Warner has a superbowl ring,the injury against the jets wasn't lost on me.yet there is something about him ....the give me a new contract or trade me thing and lets not forget that the #2 man should be open and making playes when the #1 man is double and triple coverd...alll the time, and this was with out a running game to speak of.You say one outburst ....only one caught on TV from what people say at least 5 during the season and that includes during training camp.TO ME and this is my opinion only we have young talent that can play just as well given the chance.

[Giantone]

Oh well ,doesn't matter................

Another Report Says Trade for Edwards Unlikely: The Daily News is reporting that the Giants are unlikely to acquire WR Braylon Edwards of the Cleveland Browns by trade. An unidentified source has told the paper that the Browns are seeking the Giants’ 1st and 3rd round picks in this weekend’s NFL Draft. The Giants are apparently offering their 2nd and 5th round picks. So unless one side blinks, there will be no trade.
A report on ESPN yesterday said the Browns were seeking the Giants’ 1st round pick and DE Mathias Kiwanuka.
The Daily News report also says the Giants are alos not expected to attempt to trade for WR Anquan Boldin of the Arizona Cardinals.
Giants Interested in Moving Up in the Draft? According to The Daily News‘ Giants Blog, several unidentified team sources have said the Giants are interested in moving up in the 1st round of the Draft.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Oh well ,doesn't matter................

Another Report Says Trade for Edwards Unlikely...

You're right, Giants' news doesn't matter here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

You're right, Giants' news doesn't matter here.

lol

Win.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

You're right, Giants' news doesn't matter here.

LOL..........oh come now,it matters.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Kurt Warner has a superbowl ring,the injury against the jets wasn't lost on me.yet there is something about him ....the give me a new contract or trade me thing and lets not forget that the #2 man should be open and making playes when the #1 man is double and triple coverd...alll the time, and this was with out a running game to speak of.You say one outburst ....only one caught on TV from what people say at least 5 during the season and that includes during training camp.TO ME and this is my opinion only we have young talent that can play just as well given the chance.

Like Who? Manningham? He got injured early and was never a fatcor. Moss? You guys don't dress him on gamedays even when he is healthy(which hasn't been often). He made it on the field last season some in garbage time and put up some nice numbers but it was just that, garbage time. I do like Smith but he is nowhere close to AB. You WRs are a joke and if you don't do something about it, its not going to be pretty.

And yes, I know the Redskins WRs are not worldbeaters but comparing the your guys to AB is a joke.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Kurt Warner has a superbowl ring,the injury against the jets wasn't lost on me.yet there is something about him ....the give me a new contract or trade me thing and lets not forget that the #2 man should be open and making playes when the #1 man is double and triple coverd...alll the time, and this was with out a running game to speak of.You say one outburst ....only one caught on TV from what people say at least 5 during the season and that includes during training camp.TO ME and this is my opinion only we have young talent that can play just as well given the chance.

Gibbsisgod is right. Giantone, you guys are not looking pretty at WR without Plax, development of the younger ones or not.

Nicks looks like a good prospect but if you think that Boldin is slow...Nicks is not gonna be the field stretcher than you guys need.

You guys had better find a speedy WR upgrade or defenses next year will be inching towards the line and taking away those holes that Jacobs has enjoyed. Without a speedster your passing game AND running game will take hits.