Cooley comments on Jason Taylor

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by irish

IMO for that kind of $ they could have rebuilt the entire line instead of just plugging in 1 player who like you said isnt really going to make much of a difference. If they had to spend that $ I'd have liked to see them take a run at Cassell. That is the position that is really holding this team back.

Huh, come on back to earth dude. An entire line..? For a four year deal for 48 mil, since when....? Your out of touch with reality on price tags. Just look around the league at what some of the other upper tier FA player contracts reeled in.

For what logical reason is AH (The BEST DT in the league) not going to be a difference maker for the SKINS?

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Huh, come on back to earth dude. An entire line..? For a four year deal for 48 mil, since when....? Your out of touch with reality on price tags. Just look around the league at what some of the other upper tier FA player contracts reeled in.

For what logical reason is AH (The BEST DT in the league) not going to be a difference maker for the SKINS?

I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that.

Actually, I will predict with confidence that we will see more pick six'es directly due to these free agency signings then we had all last season. and again, I can think of several games where a pick six would have turned the tide for us (and one SB where it definitely was a key in the win)

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually, I will predict with confidence that we will see more pick six'es directly due to these free agency signings then we had all last season. and again, I can think of several games where a pick six would have turned the tide for us (and one SB where it definitely was a key in the win)

It wouldnt take much to improve on last season's pick 6 total so I predict your prediction will come true.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

It wouldnt take much to improve on last season's pick 6 total so I predict your prediction will come true.

Yeah i figured that was a real safe one there

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.

not if he is going to have a larger salary cap hit, where would we build the larger group impact that you spoke of?

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

not if he is going to have a larger salary cap hit, where would we build the larger group impact that you spoke of?

Cassell is a pro style QB that IMO could come in and get this O into gear and scoring points. The cap doesnt matter, the FO can flim flam those numbers however they want to make him fit it they really wanted.

On either line.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

Cassell is a pro style QB that IMO could come in and get this O into gear and scoring points. The cap doesnt matter, the FO can flim flam those numbers however they want to make him fit it they really wanted.

On either line.

Please he was on a team that went 16-0 and the team finished 11-5. obviously he can't handle pro offenses.

I've no clue how good Cassell is, but you said you wanted to re work the lines and then edited it to include getting Cassell. So mainly your gripe is JC, but we are not replacing him this year period, would be a ridiculous proposition, so instead they went out and got top quality at positions we are weak at and that is a good proposition. Cassell would no more win us three games (he lost NE 5) then AH will, but our D should be dominating enough and that a modest improvement in our offense, which we should see or Zorn will be to blame, should lead to dramatic results.

They are serving Koolaid and Ice Cream again!!!!!

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Please he was on a team that went 16-0 and the team finished 11-5. obviously he can't handle pro offenses.

I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic here or not.

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Please he was on a team that went 16-0 and the team finished 11-5. obviously he can't handle pro offenses.

I've no clue how good Cassell is, but you said you wanted to re work the lines and then edited it to include getting Cassell. So mainly your gripe is JC, but we are not replacing him this year period, would be a ridiculous proposition, so instead they went out and got top quality at positions we are weak at and that is a good proposition. Cassell would no more win us three games (he lost NE 5) then AH will, but our D should be dominating enough and that a modest improvement in our offense, which we should see or Zorn will be to blame, should lead to dramatic results.

They are serving Koolaid and Ice Cream again!!!!!

I didnt say to rework the lines and get Cassell. It was either or. I also have no idea how good Cassell can be but I do know he lead NE to 11 wins last year after never having taken a snap. Thats almost as many wins as JC has in all his time with the Skins. If offered a choice between Cassell and JC I'll take Cassell every time.

If you think that one D lineman (not the entire d line) has as big an impact on winning and losing games as a QB you need to go back and watch football.

BTW, when the O sputters again this season it wont be Zorns fault. It will be the QB. Zorn cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

I didnt say to rework the lines and get Cassell. It was either or. I also have no idea how good Cassell can be but I do know he lead NE to 11 wins last year after never having taken a snap. Thats almost as many wins as JC has in all his time with the Skins. If offered a choice between Cassell and JC I'll take Cassell every time.

If you think that one D lineman (not the entire d line) has as big an impact on winning and losing games as a QB you need to go back and watch football.

BTW, when the O sputters again this season it wont be Zorns fault. It will be the QB. Zorn cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

First, I watch enough, thank you, and if you saw our games last year, and watched the Titans D also, you would know that a player like AH does in fact upgrade our D every time he steps on the field. If you think he doesn't impact our D strategy as much as the qb on the other side, maybe you should watch his games more closely.
2nd, Zorn made silk out of Hasselback, even after benching him. You don't like Campbell, fine whatever. Campbell and Portis together were creating all the buzz until the OLine broke down, then nothing. Campbell's stats and performance have improved yearly so replacing him would just set our team back again. But like every other JC hater, nothing I say would change your mind so I guess I'll just go watch more football till I see it your way.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by irish

I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.

Speaking of mid-level quarterbacks who won't help and might hurt the Skins, but you would support getting anyway, I hear Derek Anderson is available. Should we go after him?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by irish

I mis-spoke when I said rebuild. I wasnt talking about loading up the line with upper tier players. I was talking about bringing in mid tier guys that can be in a position to outplay their contract. There is no way AH can outplay his contract.

I dont have a problem with the AH signing, I just think the $ could have been spend on more players that could have had a larger group impact.

I think AH can be a good player for the Skins but he's not going to be the difference in this team getting to the playoff. This team doesnt score points and AH isnt going to change that. Getting Cassell might have changed that.

Fair enough. As I'm not sold on JC myself. This will be the year he either breaks through and takes a huge step or gets run outta DC IMO.