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[MTK]

I still don't get the hating on Hixon. Prior to Thomas and Kelly what other young, quality WRs has he been given to work with and develop??

You've gotta blame Thomas for most of his struggles, and Kelly had injury issues.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I still don't get the hating on Hixon. Prior to Thomas and Kelly what other young, quality WRs has he been given to work with and develop??

You've gotta blame Thomas for most of his struggles, and Kelly had injury issues.

I think it's the Anthony Mix factor. Why can UFAs like Stephon Heyer and Lorenzo Alexander make an impact, but not Mix, Toler, Mann, etc.

I also think the scenarios are far different.

Plus I think that while Hixon isn't the best option, we have much more pressing issues.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I still don't get the hating on Hixon. Prior to Thomas and Kelly what other young, quality WRs has he been given to work with and develop??

You've gotta blame Thomas for most of his struggles, and Kelly had injury issues.

SBXV11 did a good list of WR's that have been through Hixon's training here:
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post523516

I think my point is with the number of receivers that have been through, and the problems we continue to have, Hixon has done nothing to merit staying. Maybe he hasn't done so bad as to be fired, but certainly when his contract is up we should look for a replacement.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

SBXV11 did a good list of WR's that have been through Hixon's training here:
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post523516

I think my point is with the number of receivers that have been through, and the problems we continue to have, Hixon has done nothing to merit staying. Maybe he hasn't done so bad as to be fired, but certainly when his contract is up we should look for a replacement.

But it's not like these guys have gone on to do anything anywhere else. I mean seriously that list is littered with scrubs.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

But it's not like these guys have gone on to do anything anywhere else. I mean seriously that list is littered with scrubs.

That's true, but, I believe that he has not done anything that says, "Wow, what a great job" either. Some of our position coaches are the best in the league, ie Jerry Gray, and it seems like there ought to be an opportunity to upgrade there.
Plus it makes for a good sacrificial lamb for all the mental errors through the season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That's true, but, I believe that he has not done anything that says, "Wow, what a great job" either. Some of our position coaches are the best in the league, ie Jerry Gray, and it seems like there ought to be an opportunity to upgrade there.
Plus it makes for a good sacrificial lamb for all the mental errors through the season.

Can we really say he's had a lot to work with though??

I say we need to give him another year to see how Thomas and Kelly pan out.

And what about the success that Moss has had? Does he get no credit at all for that?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Can we really say he's had a lot to work with though??

well, i think he has had some input probably, and i think all the HC/OC's tried to bring in playmakers

I say we need to give him another year to see how Thomas and Kelly pan out.

SOMEONE HAS TO PAY!!
Seriously, I think we keep wanting to give everyone one more year and mostly I agree, but none of the WR's showed much in the way of good coaching, I think what we see on the field is the raw ability mostly. I really don't know, but it seems like we should have seen some "thing" over 5 years that either said yes keep him, or else it is time to move on. He is not a qb in new systems, he is a pro WR receiver coach with 5 yrs experience. If this is good as he gets, we can do better. (maybe worse, but that's hard to see)

And what about the success that Moss has had? Does he get no credit at all for that?

I would say that is almost all Moss' natural talent, plus coaching he had when he got here, I've never heard Moss or any WR credit Hixon, so maybe that sways me too. I won't knock him hard for not developing any of the others, so I won't give him a lot of credit for a naturally talented WR.

For me two things are paramount:
1) In 5 years he has not visibly improved one prospect (Kelly/Thomas are still pending)

2) This is not a "essential personnel move" like JC, or Zorn, where another year could make or break them. Instead, this is a position where an improvement now could pay huge dividends in training Kelly and Thomas to be #1 receivers. The flip side is if it is Hixon, and he wastes another year here, we could potentially scrap Kelly and Thomas' careers.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

well, i think he has had some input probably, and i think all the HC/OC's tried to bring in playmakers


SOMEONE HAS TO PAY!!
Seriously, I think we keep wanting to give everyone one more year and mostly I agree, but none of the WR's showed much in the way of good coaching, I think what we see on the field is the raw ability mostly. I really don't know, but it seems like we should have seen some "thing" over 5 years that either said yes keep him, or else it is time to move on. He is not a qb in new systems, he is a pro WR receiver coach with 5 yrs experience. If this is good as he gets, we can do better. (maybe worse, but that's hard to see)


I would say that is almost all Moss' natural talent, plus coaching he had when he got here, I've never heard Moss or any WR credit Hixon, so maybe that sways me too. I won't knock him hard for not developing any of the others, so I won't give him a lot of credit for a naturally talented WR.

For me two things are paramount:
1) In 5 years he has not visibly improved one prospect (Kelly/Thomas are still pending)

2) This is not a "essential personnel move" like JC, or Zorn, where another year could make or break them. Instead, this is a position where an improvement now could pay huge dividends in training Kelly and Thomas to be #1 receivers. The flip side is if it is Hixon, and he wastes another year here, we could potentially scrap Kelly and Hixon's careers.

Think you meant Thomas' careers and yeah that is one of my biggest concerns as well.