Charlie Kirk Assassinated.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic

I rarely post here in this side of the forum however I do come here sometimes to learn people's perspectives as I always want to learn and understand all sides' perspective on all topics. In this case, I have to say something, for you to blame this solely on the democrats is shortsighted. There are evidence-based researches that shows the political violence have grown in the last few years and the violence came from both sides. On top of that, we literally have politicians who promote violence (directly or indirectly).

When you turn a blind eye to your party's wrongdoings, you are doing exactly what you are angry at the other party about - ignoring their own party's wrongdoings and being angry with the opposite party for the exactly same wrongdoings. By engaging in this action, you are contributing to the endless vicious cycle that has potentials of breaking this country apart.

Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer.

[Giantone]

This seems interesting considering the political climate.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...emist-violence

US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence

Report finding rightwing extremists have killed more Americans than other domestic terrorist groups vanished from DoJ website


The US justice department has scrubbed a study from its website concluding that far-right extremists have killed far more Americans than any other domestic terrorist group, just days after a gunman fatally shot the prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk.



The report, now archived, titled What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism, vanished from the Department of Justice website between 12 and 13 September, according to Daniel Malmar, a PhD student studying online extremism at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, who had been monitoring the page. Kirk, the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally, was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University on 10 September.



The vanished study opened with: “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”
The National Institute of Justice study, which was based on research spanning three decades, represented one of the most comprehensive government assessments of domestic terrorism patterns. It found that “militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States” and that “the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism”.

But the findings align with independent research from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which analyzed 893 terrorist plots between 1994 and 2020. That study concluded: “Rightwing attacks and plots account for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994.”



In congressional testimony in 2023, Heidi Beirich, the executive vice-president of Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, told lawmakers as an expert witness that “data on acts of political violence clearly shows that it is the far right that is driving terrorism in the US, including targeting and, in certain cases, murdering law enforcement”.



“That is not to say there is no violence from far-left actors,” she continued, “it is just simply not on the scale or as deadly as what is coming from far-right actors.”

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic

Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.

[sdskinsfan2001]

[MTK]

I see his supporters calling him a good Christian, good grief

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.

Don’t forget about the opportunity to blame transgenders, they are literally obsessed with blaming 1% of the population for all of society’s woes

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.

As we know from the DA press conference the other day when charges were announced, straight from the investigators: he was a leftist, left leaning politically who became more active over the last 2 years. The murderer stated he hates Charlie Kirk politics and what he said. He was in a relationship with a tranny.

He was a democrat leftist Mooby who was into trannys

Sorry this is happening to you

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Chico = Hypocrite


Charlie Kirk did just that preach hate.

Did he deserve what he got, no. Did he cause his own death, a case can be made for it. There is a big difference.

I'm going to disagree with this. Here you have a killer that felt Kirk was a hateful person but saw nothing wrong with killing him for his views? That is hateful and far more hateful than anything Kirk has ever done.

Personally this pisses me off. I miss the days when I was called an extremist and leftist for thinking everyone should have access to health care and nutritious food should not be tied to market value. Chico is not wrong in that leftist violence is a problem. Democrats say they are the party of empathy but those on social media that lean left mocking this death, and yes I recognize as a vocal minority, but it was done and unnecessary.

Also, it wasn't too long ago that democrat leadership was making same comments as Pam Bondi on the suppression of First Amendment rights. Of which Kirk would've lost his shit hearing her make that comment.

We have a problem and leadership on both sides is failing to develop a solution.

[Chico23231]

Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).[/QUOTE]

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.

Do you not think democrat parents also had to explain when their children ask them questions about republicans' wrongdoings?

Do you truly believe that none of people within your party endorse and/or are doing similar things?


My friend, you are doing exactly what I'm saying that you are doing.. You are focused on the pain that Democrats have created for you & your loved ones and ignoring the fact that your party is creating the same pain for Democrats. Just as what Democrats are doing, focusing on the pain created by Republicans and ignoring that their party is doing the same thing. The pain and anger you are feeling are real. Just as the pain and anger Democrats are feeling are real. Thus, the endless vicious cycle you are participating in.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.

Mainstream view? Just stop dude. I’ve yet to personally come across anyone I know that thinks that way, left or right. Get off social media and Fox News and touch some grass.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I'm going to disagree with this. Here you have a killer that felt Kirk was a hateful person but saw nothing wrong with killing him for his views? That is hateful and far more hateful than anything Kirk has ever done.

Personally this pisses me off. I miss the days when I was called an extremist and leftist for thinking everyone should have access to health care and nutritious food should not be tied to market value. Chico is not wrong in that leftist violence is a problem. Democrats say they are the party of empathy but those on social media that lean left mocking this death, and yes I recognize as a vocal minority, but it was done and unnecessary.

Also, it wasn't too long ago that democrat leadership was making same comments as Pam Bondi on the suppression of First Amendment rights. Of which Kirk would've lost his shit hearing her make that comment.

We have a problem and leadership on both sides is failing to develop a solution.

I agree with what you're saying. My point was Charlie Kirk sought out just not differing views he delighted in being antagonistic in his interviews debates whatever. He could very well have shared his views without being an ass about his beliefs. What's funny is the right celebrating the lose of freedom of speech to people when Charlie Kirk would have defend the right to say whatever it is they wanted.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don’t forget about the opportunity to blame transgenders, they are literally obsessed with blaming 1% of the population for all of society’s woes

https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclu...l-filings-show

EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin Identifies As Transgender Woman, Legal Filings Show
Lawyers for the attempted assassin say he now goes by 'female pronouns' as he faces a 30 year prison sentence.

Another liberal democrat assassin…used to be a he….now a she

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.[/QUOTE]


chico your lies are getting worse. No one is celebrating his murder, the right wing nuts can't stand the commentary / free speech so they punish anyone with a differing opinions, did your children ask about why republicans are destroying the constitution? the right wing nuts can't win anything the right way so now they use a Mans murder to stop free speech
Did they ask questions about Pelosi's 82 year old Husband attacked with a hammer. Did they ask questions when the Democratic rep from Minnesota were shot and killed and her husband and dog were all so killed what did you say, did you tell them about the sick stuff you post hear? What were their question when the sicko republican ran down people at a peaceful protest in Charlotte's VA. ......................we're waiting?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclu...l-filings-show

EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin Identifies As Transgender Woman, Legal Filings Show
Lawyers for the attempted assassin say he now goes by 'female pronouns' as he faces a 30 year prison sentence.

Another liberal democrat assassin…used to be a he….now a she

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checkin...-lgbtq-people/

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...idUSL1N363273/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...errorism-data/