Parkland Shooting

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Asking why someone needs an AR-15 isn't the same as calling for a ban so please don't lump me in with the pro banning crowd.

I'm perfectly fine with responsible gun owners having one, but I also think it's perfectly fine to question why civilians need military style weapons.

Sorry, I thought that was acceptable practice on here...jumping to conclusions, making assumptions, and lumping people into certain categories... Maybe only one side can do that...

Is it the style we are concerned about or the function. Because there is a distinct difference.

It's the function that makes a weapon an assault rifle/weapon, not the "style".

AR doesn't equal Assault Rifle or military style weapon. It's merely a semi-automatic rifle. Can it be modified to be more dangerous - to fit the category of an assault rifle? Yes...but that is illegal.

[Giantone]

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Sorry, I thought that was acceptable practice on here...jumping to conclusions, making assumptions, and lumping people into certain categories... Maybe only one side can do that...

Is it the style we are concerned about or the function. Because there is a distinct difference.

It's the function that makes a weapon an assault rifle/weapon, not the "style".

AR doesn't equal Assault Rifle or military style weapon. It's merely a semi-automatic rifle. Can it be modified to be more dangerous - to fit the category of an assault rifle? Yes...but that is illegal.

I wasn't trying to be snarky I was just defending my position.

I know AR does not mean assault rifle.

Let me just ask this, why is it such a popular gun with mass shooters? I'm guessing it has to do with the function of it, being able to mow down many people quickly.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wasn't trying to be snarky I was just defending my position.

I know AR does not mean assault rifle.

Let me just ask this, why is it such a popular gun with mass shooters? I'm guessing it has to do with the function of it, being able to mow down many people quickly.

Well, unless they are illegally modified, the legal AR-15 style rifle can't shoot any faster than your run of the mill Winchester semi-automatic hunting rifle - basically as fast as your finger can pull the trigger - one round per pull. However, the magazine capacity is generally higher, so a shooter can shoot more rounds without reloading than with other rifles that don't have the same capacity. Some states have put restrictions on what they have deemed "large capacity" magazines. Others have not.

All that being said, and to answer your question, the AR-15 style rifle could be popular with mass shooters because of it's capacity potential, compared to other options. But that's just my speculation.

[Giantone]

To add.............

https://news.yahoo.com/tulsa-police-...173926786.html


Yahoo News Video
Tulsa police: Gunman bought rifle hours before hospital shooting, targeted doctor
Thu, June 2, 2022, 1:39 PM
Officials in Tulsa, Okla., said the gunman who fatally shot four people at Saint Francis Hospital on Wednesday targeted his surgeon, blaming him for ongoing pain following a recent back surgery. Police also said the gunman bought an AR-15-style rifle hours before the killings.

- Now, we know, through the help of our ATF and their gun tracing, that at 2:00 PM on June 1, Mr Lewis purchased a semi-automatic rifle from a local gun store. That semi-automatic rifle was an AR-15-style rifle.

We know that Mr Lewis purchased a semi-automatic handgun, a 40 caliber Smith and Wesson pistol, on May 29, from a local pawn shop.

We have also found a letter on the suspect which made it clear that he came in with the intent to kill Dr. Phillips and anyone who got in his way. He blamed Dr. Phillips for the ongoing pain following the surgery.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Article on Yahoo, from the NYT regarding recent mass shootings:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/disturbin...114506454.html

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Article on Yahoo, from the NYT regarding recent mass shootings:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/disturbin...114506454.html

Man...

"Only two of the 30 deadliest mass shootings recorded from 1949 to 2017 involved gunmen younger than 21"

while

"Six of the nine deadliest mass shootings in the United States since 2018 were by people who were 21 or younger"

There's a big problem brewing here, and it's not just a guns problem people.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Sorry, I thought that was acceptable practice on here...jumping to conclusions, making assumptions, and lumping people into certain categories... Maybe only one side can do that...

Is it the style we are concerned about or the function. Because there is a distinct difference.

It's the function that makes a weapon an assault rifle/weapon, not the "style".

AR doesn't equal Assault Rifle or military style weapon. It's merely a semi-automatic rifle. Can it be modified to be more dangerous - to fit the category of an assault rifle? Yes...but that is illegal.

Technically no it is not an assault rifle in its unmodified state, BUT, it is clearly capable of killing more people faster with no need to be even remotely accurate- it is no doubt over kill for john q public who just wants protection at home. 45 rounds a minute is perfect for a mass shooter, and clearly over kill for a home invasion unless there is a small army invading.