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Old 06-02-2022, 12:01 PM   #1
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I wouldn't respond except you called me out - and it's all BS.

I am not against making AR-15s or any other guns less accessible, or harder to get. It's quite clear that not everyone should own one. I'm just not for banning them completely - which is what you guys want to do.

I'm not against funding teachers. My wife is a teacher. That's just an ignorant assumption.

The one thing you said that was true is that I'll do anything except blame the gun. That is a fact. Just like I won't blame the car for running people over, or the bat for bashing someone's head in. I'll blame the person who pulled the trigger, the person who was behind the wheel, and the person who was wielding the bat - a l l d a y l o n g.


Look, we have had guns in this country for a long damn time - and way more accessible to kids than they are today.

Why do you think kids are picking them up or seeking them out and using them more today than they were in previous years?
This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.

Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.

You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.

I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death.
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Old 06-02-2022, 12:20 PM   #2
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This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.

Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.

You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.

I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death.
Actually banning AR -15's is a start. Should we ban all guns ,no, should we go to house's and confiscate guns ,no. Banning the weapon of choice to most mass murders is a good start.


What I think is you handle guns like a car.

Must be 21 years old.

Before you get a license ,you take a test and renew that license every 5 years(give or take)

All guns must be registered , you want a hundred guns fine but register them

You must carry liability Insurance for your guns.

All lost or stolen guns must be reported to the Police, if not then Owner of record gets the same time as the criminal offender.
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Old 06-02-2022, 12:53 PM   #3
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This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.

Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.

You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.

I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death.
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...Nobody needs an AR15, they do far more harm than good in society so thus should be banned...
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...Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns...
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...at no point does the second Amendment say you have a God given right as an American to own a assault weapon...
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...Is there any reason why an average person needs an AR-15?
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...IMO the AR 15 falls in the too much power for the average Joe who doesn't even need it so why not eliminate it.
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I agree with you... and used an atomic bomb as an example and while it was spun it was never answered.
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So why own a AR 15 i am looking for a valid reason?
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Actually banning AR -15's is a start...
Sorry Moob, but you're wrong.

The "dumb shit" is you calling me out - putting me in a bucket (you, y'all, you're people..), and then balking when I return the favor.

BTW, an AR-15 isn't an "assault rifle". Some want to label it as such, but that is not what it is.
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Old 06-02-2022, 09:55 PM   #4
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Sorry Moob, but you're wrong.

The "dumb shit" is you calling me out - putting me in a bucket (you, y'all, you're people..), and then balking when I return the favor.

BTW, an AR-15 isn't an "assault rifle". Some want to label it as such, but that is not what it is.
Which one of those clearly said AR-15's or assault rifles need complete bans? I agree - nobody needs them unless you're planning on defending large territories by force. Are they useful for home defense? Perhaps you like to carry yours slung over your shoulder when you go shopping or when you pick up your kids from school - just in case fate aligns you with a mass shooter? Or maybe you don't like being inconvenienced by an extra day when your background check is being processed. Not sure - don't really care. All I care about is this faux "we care about people's mental health" bs you and other conservatives fall back on after the latest mass shooting - only to turn around and shit on Dems who actually want to do something about it next time the budget rolls around. And if it's not you specifically, it's your preferred elected leader.

The point is any one of us would settle for a compromise that doesn't involve banning a specific type of gun. But we can't even have that because the goddamn NRA and gun manufacturers have so much extra cash to spend from their beaucoup sales to scared rednecks that they can go around buying political votes.

Armalite Rifle 15 - for those who don't follow the snarky gun club terminology nerds.
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Old 06-03-2022, 06:56 PM   #5
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Which one of those clearly said AR-15's or assault rifles need complete bans? I agree - nobody needs them unless you're planning on defending large territories by force. Are they useful for home defense? Perhaps you like to carry yours slung over your shoulder when you go shopping or when you pick up your kids from school - just in case fate aligns you with a mass shooter? Or maybe you don't like being inconvenienced by an extra day when your background check is being processed. Not sure - don't really care. All I care about is this faux "we care about people's mental health" bs you and other conservatives fall back on after the latest mass shooting - only to turn around and shit on Dems who actually want to do something about it next time the budget rolls around. And if it's not you specifically, it's your preferred elected leader.

The point is any one of us would settle for a compromise that doesn't involve banning a specific type of gun. But we can't even have that because the goddamn NRA and gun manufacturers have so much extra cash to spend from their beaucoup sales to scared rednecks that they can go around buying political votes.

Armalite Rifle 15 - for those who don't follow the snarky gun club terminology nerds.
A few of those posts clearly said AR-15's or assault rifles should be complete banned, the others were suggestive of the same. Unlike G1 though, I am pretty sure you can read, so I won't go through them one-by-one.

LOL. No, I don't carry one around, and I don't think they are any more useful for home defense than a good hand gun.

I'm not against background checks - the more extensive the better. We shouldn't just be handing guns out to anyone.

I do care about mental health, especially of our youth. It's not BS to me.

I'm not sure I have a "preferred" elected leader these days. None of them seem to be working for us anymore. But, the Dems do have control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency - and have for over a year, so I'll be looking for them to get big things done in these two years...

I wasn't actually referring to the history of the AR-15, I was referring to the fact that the AR-15 and other AR style rifles aren't considered assault rifles, because they aren't fully automatic (i.e. they aren't a machine gun). While they look like military style weapons, they function like other semi-automatic sporting firearms, because you can only fire one round each time you pull the trigger.
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