Taylor Effing Heinicke

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

His accuracy issues obviously go beyond just 9 starts in 2020. He didn't just develop those issues in that one season. I'm also going off what I've seen. He can be wildly inaccurate at times and he struggles with ball placement. I think his mechanics break down too easily and that leads to accuracy problems. He also hasn't handled pressure very well.

He's young, could he clean up his game with good coaching? Sure, but I'm just not a fan or a believer.

I just find it hard to believe that his main strength coming out of college all of a sudden became a glaring weakness, and besides that 9-game chart, I have no reason to believe it has. I haven't watched him play much, but his team went to the playoffs - twice. More than you can say about any one QB from this team since Mark Rypien.

For me it boils down to - I'm not a believer in anything on this current roster, and I'm not a believer that for some reason one of the top QBs like Watson, Wilson, etc. is going to want to come to this shit show... So targeting a Veteran upgrade who was highly touted coming out of college just four years ago, someone with something to prove, with a clean slate, and potentially more weapons than he has previously had, is ok with me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I just find it hard to believe that his main strength coming out of college all of a sudden became a glaring weakness, and besides that 9-game chart, I have no reason to believe it has. I haven't watched him play much, but his team went to the playoffs - twice. More than you can say about any one QB from this team since Mark Rypien.

For me it boils down to - I'm not a believer in anything on this current roster, and I'm not a believer that for some reason one of the top QBs like Watson, Wilson, etc. is going to want to come to this shit show... So targeting a Veteran upgrade who was highly touted coming out of college just four years ago, someone with something to prove, with a clean slate, and potentially more weapons than he has previously had, is ok with me.

Being accurate in college vs the pros are two completely different things. He's also been a horrible deep ball thrower, and also god awful in the redzone.

According to Pro Football Focus, Trubisky ranked among the worst quarterbacks in the NFL in deep passing in 2019, where he clocked in at No. 27.

The best thing that can be said about Mitchell Trubisky’s deep passing is that it’s no worse than his regular passing, and his PFF grade ranks around the same place in either scenario. Trubisky completed just 34.4% of his deep shots for only 10.4 yards per attempt, and that’s with Allen Robinson II winning jump balls at a high rate. Ultimately it’s just another part of Trubisky’s game that has likely cost him the starting job in favor of Nick Foles, whose numbers last season may have been even worse than Trubisky’s.

In 2019, Trubisky threw five interceptions (four inside the 20, one inside the 10) in the red zone in 15 starts. Gardner Minshew, Jimmy Garoppolo, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kirk Cousins all performed far better in the red zone last year. He was also bad accuracy-wise in 2019, completing 50.8 percent of his passes from inside the 20-yard line and an ugly 43.8 percent of his throws from 10 yards out. Only Baker Mayfield, Andy Dalton, Case Keenum and Tom Brady were worse from 10 yards out last year.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Being accurate in college vs the pros are two completely different things. He's also been a horrible deep ball thrower, and also god awful in the redzone.

True, but it doesn't mean it won't translate either. I mean, you don't scout certain abilities/skills with the thought process that those abilities/skills won't apply at the next level.

And you just quoted a stat in which Tom Brady was worse than him...

All I'm saying is maybe the Bears gave up on him too early, didn't coach him up, he was in the wrong system, didn't have enough experience, etc.

Either way, it sounds like they were willing to bring him in, and still might be. I'd take a flyer on a young QB with a winning record, and who has taken two teams to the playoffs in the past four years. He didn't put those teams on his shoulders, that Bears defense had a lot to do with it, but he was the starting QB for both of those teams. For me that counts, and like I said we haven't seen the same QB take this team to the playoffs since 1992.