Bengals @ WFT postgame thread

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dline...Holcomb..CB’s.fuller and Darby have been awesome

I'm not sure about the Dline part, they disappeared in some games when we needed them.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I'm not sure about the Dline part, they disappeared in some games when we needed them.

U think so? I think Pass rush has been good. Pressure to force ball out quick...we’ve seen much less big pass plays as well vs years past. We get sacks and hits on QB.

I think our run d by line has been good in some games, but in others when the offense has doesn’t stay on the field they gotten worn down. There was also no good run stop LB play until Holcomb stepped on field.

I don’t it’s been perfect and don’t think we have reached elite level, but I think everyone can see improvement. It’s a def a top 10 dline, probably just outside top 5.

Give it another year in the system and add a MLB...we move into top 5

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

U think so? I think Pass rush has been good. Pressure to force ball out quick...we’ve seen much less big pass plays as well vs years past. We get sacks and hits on QB.

I think our run d by line has been good in some games, but in others when the offense has doesn’t stay on the field they gotten worn down. There was also no good run stop LB play until Holcomb stepped on field.

I don’t it’s been perfect and don’t think we have reached elite level, but I think everyone can see improvement. It’s a def a top 10 dline, probably just outside top 5.

Give it another year in the system and add a MLB...we move into top 5

Good points.. There is definitely no question the defense improved from last year.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

U think so? I think Pass rush has been good. Pressure to force ball out quick...we’ve seen much less big pass plays as well vs years past. We get sacks and hits on QB.

I think our run d by line has been good in some games, but in others when the offense has doesn’t stay on the field they gotten worn down. There was also no good run stop LB play until Holcomb stepped on field.

I don’t it’s been perfect and don’t think we have reached elite level, but I think everyone can see improvement. It’s a def a top 10 dline, probably just outside top 5.

Give it another year in the system and add a MLB...we move into top 5

This is a great point. The improvement has been dramatic.

Seriously, start listing the guys in the back half of the D who we have been relying on and knew we would have to rely on. Apke, Everrett, Curl, Bostic, Davis, KPL, and Moreland have all played significant snaps in crucial situations.

What sort of expectations should one have with those guys? We all knew who those guys were going in. No surprises really.

The players who did surprise was Collins and Moreau who were bad this year.

Chico is right on the money, there is significant empirical improvement. It's not an elite D, but it's a heck of a lot better than it was.

Opponents 3rd down conversion percentage:
2019 48.9% Rank 32

2020 38.64% Rank 9
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

Defense DVOA:
2019 Rank 27th
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...m-defense/2019

2020 Rank 6th
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...m-defense/2020

Opponents Yards Per Play (for you gamblers)
2019 5.7 Rank 21

2020 5.1 Rank 7th
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...ate=2020-11-26

We're a few players and a little bit of injury luck from being a very good to elite defense.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

U think so? I think Pass rush has been good. Pressure to force ball out quick...we’ve seen much less big pass plays as well vs years past. We get sacks and hits on QB.

I think our run d by line has been good in some games, but in others when the offense has doesn’t stay on the field they gotten worn down. There was also no good run stop LB play until Holcomb stepped on field.

I don’t it’s been perfect and don’t think we have reached elite level, but I think everyone can see improvement. It’s a def a top 10 dline, probably just outside top 5.

Give it another year in the system and add a MLB...we move into top 5

Micah Parsons, Penn State.

He's sitting this year out and PSU is winless. I love seeing that.