Skins getting heat again over name issue

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by JackLord

The only reason this has ever been an issue is because a small, but loud group of people are speaking for another people.

An inconvenience is an odd way to put it. A loud minority has ignored the evidence, made up their own facts, and basically called us a bunch of bigots. All because our football team has a certain name. They have now hijacked concern over police brutality and utilized it as a weapon to re brand something we all love.

More disturbing has been the march of hypocrisy from sports writers, politicians, corporations, and even self-loathing fans who all woke up one day and declared, "I admit to being a Redskins fan for decades, but now ... If the word REDSKINS is truly so horrid, so racist, so nefarious, then what the hell have these people been doing for multiple decades?

Suffice it to say, if REDSKIN were truly a racial slur, nobody- even the late George Preston Marshall- would ever have used it in the first place. Polite society is just that.

Changing our team's name is a helluva lot more than an inconvenience when the case for doing so is all based on lies and faux concern for Native Americans. What ails Native Americans has nothing to do with Redskins or even Chief Wahoo. It's not going to transform the reservations into Gardens of Eden.

Inconvenience? Please. This is PC run amok- the heir apparent to Joseph McCarthy and Mao's Red Guards.

Hey, there's a good name: the Washington Red Guards.

I have no clue how you can say this is anything but free market. Sponsors are pulling money. They are doing so because of their image with consumers. Other NFL owners are fed up with Dan hurting the image of their product. Nobody is forcing Dan to change the name but he will have to deal with the ramifications if he doesn't.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I have no clue how you can say this is anything but free market. Sponsors are pulling money. They are doing so because of their image with consumers. Other NFL owners are fed up with Dan hurting the image of their product. Nobody is forcing Dan to change the name but he will have to deal with the ramifications if he doesn't.

Were it an issue of the Free Market, then sponsors would let the market decide. If the issue hurt the Skins' bottom line- a highly unlikely scenario- then the sponsors would mobilize. But they are not waiting for that. They are doing what scores of other people and organizations are doing- capitulating to the woke mobs.

Snyder is most certainly being forced to change the name.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by JackLord

Were it an issue of the Free Market, then sponsors would let the market decide. If the issue hurt the Skins' bottom line- a highly unlikely scenario- then the sponsors would mobilize. But they are not waiting for that. They are doing what scores of other people and organizations are doing- capitulating to the woke mobs.

Snyder is most certainly being forced to change the name.

They did let the market decide and their investors worth $620 billion told them to part ways with the Redskins if they don't change their name.

Brand image is just as part of free market as $. Right now the brand imagery of the Redskins on the NFL is not positive. You can thank DS and his lack of business acumen for that. The Native American mascot imagery is not favorable for myriad of reasons. Some of that can also be blamed on DS handling of the situation.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

They did let the market decide and their investors worth $620 billion told them to part ways with the Redskins if they don't change their name.

Brand image is just as part of free market as $. Right now the brand imagery of the Redskins on the NFL is not positive. You can thank DS and his lack of business acumen for that. The Native American mascot imagery is not favorable for myriad of reasons. Some of that can also be blamed on DS handling of the situation.

Investors who are inexplicably capitulating to the mob. Never a let a good crisis go to waste. That is not the Free Market. That is appeasement. The Redskins are but one example.

The Market is you and I plus the rest of the NFL fandom. And evidence has already indicated that the vast majority of the population could possibly care less.

The Redskins brand is very positive. They are one of the oldest teams in the league and have produced some great players. Their helmet logo was designed by a Native American.

Snyder certainly could have handled it better, no doubt. But he was not even born when the team was named the Redskins.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JackLord

Were it an issue of the Free Market, then sponsors would let the market decide. If the issue hurt the Skins' bottom line- a highly unlikely scenario- then the sponsors would mobilize. But they are not waiting for that. They are doing what scores of other people and organizations are doing- capitulating to the woke mobs.

Snyder is most certainly being forced to change the name.

This.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This.

LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

More personal attacks from punch.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

More personal attacks from punch.

Looks pretty blatant to me. Personal attacks and racist.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

More personal attacks from punch.

Call em like I see em snowflake

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by punch it in

LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

Go somewhere with that bullshit! I am 100% black American and proud of it. There is nothing racist about calling out a bunch of authoritarian, anti-American, scumbag marxists. There will always be inequalities as long as people have freedom of choice. For example, if i choose to break the law and get a felon conviction it will be harder for me to get a job. If i choose not to pay my bills on time it will be harder for me to get a loan. Which will make it almost impossible to start a business, buy a home, buy car, etc. You get out of life what you put into it. Simple as that. The woke mob is branded as violent because they are.

We have seen riot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5w0v8XsI9I&t=38s

After riot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7yi0FmZEk

After riot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujtPygMy1I8&t=68s

After riot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiXoLRSBd68

Shall i continue? Do you now see why anyone with a functioning brain would view these people as violent? The woke mob are a bunch of animals who wants to destroy everything and everyone they dislike. This isn't about justice for black people. Its all about leftists taking control of everything and they are using stupid ass black people to do it.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

Are you denying there are "woke mobs"? Where have you been the past couple months? Hear of places like Minneapolis, Seattle, NYC? At this point you are denying reality.

Social inequities today in the US are about the color green, not black and brown.

White hate crimes? LOL. Welcome to this century dude. Look up stats from other sources, and they will all be similar to this (Just to be clear, in this chart black deaths add up to 100%, white deaths add up to 100%):


There is racism and stupidity. Unfortunately (or ironically good if blind egalitarianism is your goal) racism goes both ways. In terms of murder, opposite what you say. The Left has cornered the market of stupidity, however.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Are you denying there are "woke mobs"? Where have you been the past couple months? Hear of places like Minneapolis, Seattle, NYC? At this point you are denying reality.



Social inequities today in the US are about the color green, not black and brown.



White hate crimes? LOL. Welcome to this century dude. Look up stats from other sources, and they will all be similar to this (Just to be clear, in this chart black deaths add up to 100%, white deaths add up to 100%):





There is racism and stupidity. Unfortunately (or ironically good if blind egalitarianism is your goal) racism goes both ways. In terms of murder, opposite what you say. The Left has cornered the market of stupidity, however.

Because black on black crime has nothing to do with us putting them where they are? Another right wing white nut job who speaks in memes. Gtfoh. And yeah chico and metal - another one who has blatantly been racist on this board - your damn straight im calling you out. Because if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat? Guess what? Metal ...”looks pretty blatant to me boss”. LMAO. GO SCRATCH

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Because black on black crime has nothing to do with us putting them where they are? Another right wing white nut job who speaks in memes. Gtfoh. And yeah chico and metal - another one who has blatantly been racist on this board - your damn straight im calling you out. Because if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat? Guess what? Metal ...”looks pretty blatant to me boss”. LMAO. GO SCRATCH

Punch, there's a saying: “The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views.” Don't be either of those. Do your own research, and open your mind.

Punch, you asserted "years upon years" of "white hate" and "white hate groups". That's not the case now. You're literally prioritizing 3% over 97% of the problem today. And you are the one being racist in the process.


I'm not speaking in memes, I'm giving you facts. If facts make you mad, what does that say about your emotions?

Take care, and hope you adopt a healthier mindset. Hope things get better for you.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by punch it in

LOL. The woke mobs is the racist way of saying the non whites are misbehaving. God forbid people WAKE UP to the social inequalities in the country. And after years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate groups the “woke” people get branded the violent ones for wanting to be heard. Like I said you are all either racist or fuckin stupid.

What's this? Anyone who disagrees with you is a racist? How original.

The woke people are the violent ones. Vandalism, toppling statues, seizing control of city neighborhoods and posting armed 'guards', attacking cops, setting fire to churches, and attacking people with whom they disagree. Real peace and love stuff, all that.

With regards to "years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate group", I sincerely doubt it is they causing the mayhem we all see in places like Chicago, Detroit, and even DC.

Current events and statistics. You might want to take a less skewed look. And perhaps calm down and make your point without slandering and insulting people.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JackLord

What's this? Anyone who disagrees with you is a racist? How original.



The woke people are the violent ones. Vandalism, toppling statues, seizing control of city neighborhoods and posting armed 'guards', attacking cops, setting fire to churches, and attacking people with whom they disagree. Real peace and love stuff, all that.



With regards to "years upon years of white hate crimes and white hate group", I sincerely doubt it is they causing the mayhem we all see in places like Chicago, Detroit, and even DC.



Current events and statistics. You might want to take a less skewed look. And perhaps calm down and make your point without slandering and insulting people.

Another fuckin good ole boy who shows up just to cry the blues about his oppressed white life, and regurgitate Tucker Carlson bullshit. Your post is utter garbage. All 14 of them are.
Ok now Im done.