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Old 04-29-2020, 10:12 AM   #1
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Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot. Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

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Old 04-29-2020, 02:23 PM   #2
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Poor Alex, got to hand it to him, he’s one badass persevering person. He’ll never play again and for having gone through what he has, he deserves every penny and It’s still not enough as his leg will never be the same.
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:43 PM   #3
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Not clicking on those picts.

Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot. Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

Looking forward to the show.

Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Old 05-01-2020, 09:21 AM   #4
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Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Seeing what he's gone through he deserves every penny he's been paid
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Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Me and my best friend talk about that 2018 season often. Alex Smith reminded us both a lot of Mark Brunell in 2006, dink and dunking his way down the field, not taking any big chances, but generally playing mistake-free football.

I said many times that despite being 6-3, we were the "worst" 6-3 team in the NFL that season due to having basically no offense.....We were starting to be figured out. Alex would have won a few more games if he had not gotten hurt, but i think we would have been around 8-8 or 9-7. Not great, but respectable. We weren't going deep in the playoffs, IMO.
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Old 05-01-2020, 02:54 PM   #6
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Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.


Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Was not a fan of Bruce extending Smith. But to say he isn't doing anything is ridiculous. The guy almost LOST HIS LEG. Then get a septic infection and almost DIED. Every single dime that is coming to him is WELL DESERVED.
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Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot. Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

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According to OTC, who are generally very good, if we cut him post June 1st we would not take any further hit to this years cap and would save an extra $19m next year, doesn't sound quite right but as I said OTC is a generally very accurate site, any thoughts Schneed10?
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I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb, and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.
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I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb, and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.
I don't get people complaining about this as well, it's outright ridiculous in my opinion.
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I don't get people complaining about this as well, it's outright ridiculous in my opinion.
I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.
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I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.
A lot of people have been complaining about Alex's contract from the beginning, and use his injury as "validating" their point.

Honestly, re-negotiating a contract like this, is basically kicking the can down the road. I don't know if it would have been smart of the team to do so.

Also, it is my understanding that Alex has been with the team, when he didn't need to. He has also been tutoring Dwayne from what I've heard. I'm not saying that this validates his cap number, but he has been a team player during his rehab, and done things that he didn't need IMO.
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I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.
That would've been a classic Dan all-timer right there.

"Hey, buddy, I know you suffered a compound fracture, and you had to deal with flesh eating bacteria, almost dying, you're in the midst of 17 surgeries over 9 months and they gave you a choice between amputation or a super-risky muscle transfer to save your leg. Hell, at one point your tibia was completely exposed and you were missing everything from your knee to your ankle.

But you know what would be suuuuper helpful? How about renegotiating your contract so we can get some cap relief? We really appreciate you being a team player in the most trying time of your life. Thanks bud. Owe you one."
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That would've been a classic Dan all-timer right there.

"Hey, buddy, I know you suffered a compound fracture, and you had to deal with flesh eating bacteria, almost dying, you're in the midst of 17 surgeries over 9 months and they gave you a choice between amputation or a super-risky muscle transfer to save your leg. Hell, at one point your tibia was completely exposed and you were missing everything from your knee to your ankle.

But you know what would be suuuuper helpful? How about renegotiating your contract so we can get some cap relief? We really appreciate you being a team player in the most trying time of your life. Thanks bud. Owe you one."

Just ridiculous man, Alex didn’t owe the team anything after the injury

Thankfully Snyder has done right by him


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I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb, and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.
I think the issue was extending him when he was already under contract. That was a bad business move simply because there was no history w/ Gruden and Smith. Gruden didn't run the type of offense that would have gotten the best out of Smith. Probably should have waited to see how thinks worked out before extending him.

But to me it's water under the bridge. Smtih deserves every single penny that he's being paid and then some.
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