Training Camp 2018

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We think the same way about winning football.

A false narrative is "oh its a passing league"...I think the more accurate statement is the rules have changed to making passing easier (PI rules, absurd contact rules, helmet to helmet, etc.) but if you want to control the game and win, you run the ball.

I think the Center position could surprise you...Im hoping it surprises. Simply no excuses for the LG, but that's water under the bridge.

I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I hope so. But Hope is all I have. Not a great position to be in.
The lines have to be more of a priority to our Front Office and I feel like they care more about WR.

We've been drafting OL and DL each year for a while now... Moses, Long, Scherff, Allen, Ioannidis, Payne, Kouandjio, Roullier, Christian, Settle

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by MTK

We've been drafting OL and DL each year for a while now... Moses, Long, Scherff, Allen, Ioannidis, Payne, Kouandjio, Roullier, Christian, Settle

Yes we have stepped up drafting more lineman.
But I was referring to signing Paul Richardson an injury prone WR to a five-year 40 million deal, averaging out to $8 million per year.
Add injury prone Jordan Reed's 5 year, $46,750,000 contract including a $9,000,000 signing bonus, $22,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $9,350,000.
Add to that we drafted first round Josh Doctson and he also rarely plays.
That is a ton of investment on three receivers that have rarely played an entire season healthy in the NFL.
On a team that last year that had a ton of injuries. Just questioning the logic.
Could we have spent some of that investment on a pro bowl caliber LG?
The LG we did get is an injury prone re-tread.

[MTK]

Well, we've already got significant money invested in Williams and Moses and very soon Scherff is going cash in. Some roster spots have to be filled with picks and cheaper vets.

Saying Doctson rarely plays is a bit of stretch. He was active all 16 games last year.

[skinsfan69]

Did not like the Richardson signing at all. Not sure what they see/saw in him. Deep speed is fine but if you're hurt a lot and can only do one thing then what good is he? Hope it works out but we've been down this type of free agent signing before.

[Defensewins]

MTK - Are you saying Josh Doctson is not injury prone?
Last seasons statistics are underwhelming to say the least. Up to this point in his NFL career it is safe to say he has been a disappointment. Yes?

[Chico23231]

We are about to find out what happens with a good Oline, good RB and no receivers in Dallas. I think they will struggle

You need balance across the roster...I think we have a nice mix of it. Still not sure why LG was ignored...but Im hoping Luavuo can stay somewhat healthy.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Are you saying Josh Doctson is not injury prone?
Stretch?

I don't understand how he is already hurt. Apparently he had his heel drained. Some guys bodies are just not made for football. We already have one of those guys in Reed. One more hard hit/concussion and he may have to retire. Hopefully this is just some minor stuff w/ Doc.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

MTK - Are you saying Josh Doctson is not injury prone?
Stretch?

He missed his rookie year, he played all last year, he's dinged up now with an injury that likely wouldn't cause him to miss any games if this was the regular season. So I'd say the jury is out on whether he's truly injury prone.

I think in general fans get carried away with the injury prone label. It's football, players are going to get hurt. Guys like Ryan Kerrigan are rare exceptions to the rule.

[Chico23231]

One thing we can agree on...make or break for Doctson this year. He must produce...Im thinking 8-10 games he must produce or someone else should get a shot.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

One thing we can agree on...make or break for Doctson this year. He must produce...Im thinking 8-10 games he must produce or someone else should get a shot.

If he's on the field he'll produce, I'm honestly not worried too much about that. We've got more weapons this year and a QB that will get him the ball.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Well, we've already got significant money invested in Williams and Moses and very soon Scherff is going cash in. Some roster spots have to be filled with picks and cheaper vets.

Saying Doctson rarely plays is a bit of stretch. He was active all 16 games last year.

We also have the 7th most cap dollars invested in the line per OTC. Falcons are #1 at 47M, we have 40M.

Interestingly the Patriots have the second least invested in OL, and have a star QB while spending middle of the road (13th most) QB money

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Did not like the Richardson signing at all. Not sure what they see/saw in him. Deep speed is fine but if you're hurt a lot and can only do one thing then what good is he? Hope it works out but we've been down this type of free agent signing before.

I'm just the opposite, I love the Richardson signing. I think injuries in these type receivers (ala DJax) are just a part of the position, but especially if they are there for the playoff time, stretching the field can be critical for the rest of the team's success.

[Schneed10]

He's on a rookie first round contract which means he's under contract this year and next, and the year after that will be the option year.

So there's absolutely positively no reason to rush to judgment on Doctson. At his salary, he's way worth of a roster spot this season, and he'll be way worthy of a roster spot next season.

It doesn't mean you can't develop your depth, even to the point where you conclude a guy like Robert Davis may actually be better (I don't see it, but you constantly reevaluate).

We don't have to make a decision on Doctson this year or next, so just sit back and see what he does. If he gets hurt this year, yeah that's a bad sign, but it doesn't mean you cut him next year. Let the rookie contract play out, and decide then if he's worth resigning.

[MTK]

After a quiet week, Redskins WR Paul Richardson makes a highlight play