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Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020

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Old 12-10-2020, 10:47 AM   #11
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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020

”46.This guidance is contrary to Pennsylvania law. First, Pennsylvania Election Code mandates that, for non-disabled and non-military voters, all applications for an absentee or mail-in ballot “shall be signed by the applicant.”25 PA.STAT. §§3146.2(d) & 3150.12(c). Second, Pennsylvania’s voter signature verification requirements are expressly set forth at 25 PA.STAT. 350(a.3)(1)-(2) and § 3146.8(g)(3)-(7).

47.The Pennsylvania Department of State’s guidance unconstitutionally did away with Pennsylvania’s statutory signature verification requirements. Approximately70 percent of the requests for absentee ballots were from Democrats and 25 percent from Republicans. Thus, this unconstitutional abrogation of state election law greatly inured to former Vice President Biden’s benefit.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...OTUSFiling.pdf

^^ this is the actual copy of Texas brief
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Texas or any argument about "observers being obstructed" is trivial, a state by state matter and wont convince the SCOTUS to over turn a presidential election.

What scares me though is if states changed election laws by any means other than through the State's legislature. Art ii sect 1 of the US Constitution gives each state legislature the power to set their State election laws.

Texas brief says PA law requires signature verification for mail-in ballots, citing the 2 bolded statues above.

Problem is apparently 25 PA STAT 350 requiring signature verification has been repealed.

https://casetext.com/statute/pennsyl...class-repealed

§ 3146.8(g)(3)-(7) cited by Texas has no signature verification requirement and deals with the manner mail in ballots are received and accounted for.
https://casetext.com/statute/pennsyl...ail-in-ballots
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I question my own (quick google) legislative findings ... surely Texas wouldnt tell the SCOTUS that PA requires signature verification (when it doesnt) and cite to a repealed PA statute as proof.

But it seems PA does not require signature verification. Neither does North Carolina or Wisconsin.
https://healthyelections.org/sites/d...fication_0.pdf

It seems Texas and others are claiming that the PA Supreme Court and not the State Legislature changed election laws when it ruled unanimously that mail-in ballots could not be tossed because of signature verification.

But thats not what happened.

The PA Supreme Court just reiterated existing PA election laws do not require signature verification. They didnt change the law. They just pointed to the fact that PA doesnt require it. Even the republican justice agreed. (In PA, judges run under political parties).

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...natures-431794

Now the mail in ballots received after 8 pm on election day and still counted .. that is another issue but PA was ordered to separate those and the total number would not change the PA result.

Red states attempting to overturn the presidential election in this manner should infuriate every American. This hail mary BS should not be forgotten or sweep under the rug.

Sadly but expected, conservatives over at redstate and such are acting like victims and claiming the republic as we know it will be done if the SCOTUS doesnt overturn the election ... this is like a Black Mirror episode.

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