Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I didn't like Dalton because he was a Ginger. Any problems I had with Dalton had little if anything to do with his playing ability.

ROFLMAO. You kill me. So your a Ginger-sist?

[skins89moss]

If Peyton is cleared by the team doctors I would rather take Peyton Manning and select another quarterback in the later rds. Next season you have Matt Barkley and Landry Jones coming out.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

If Peyton is cleared by the team doctors I would rather take Peyton Manning and select another quarterback in the later rds. Next season you have Matt Barkley and Landry Jones coming out.

So what? We would have to trade away everything to get into the top 5 next year just like this year. And going that route you would have a raw, low round QB prospect who isn't ready to play and when Peyton get's the knockout blow for his career somewhere in the first 3 weeks, then what do we have for the rest of the season? Rex Grossman. No thank you.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

If Peyton is cleared by the team doctors I would rather take Peyton Manning and select another quarterback in the later rds. Next season you have Matt Barkley and Landry Jones coming out.

.....always next year....

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

.....always next year....

I see you've been reading Dirtbag's blog.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I see you've been reading Dirtbag's blog.

lol! I always think of Dirtbag when someone mentions next year's qb crop.

Seriously though, if B. Allen ever wanted to use his father's mantra, our QB situation is pretty appropriate for it - 'the future is now!'

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

If Peyton is cleared by the team doctors I would rather take Peyton Manning and select another quarterback in the later rds. Next season you have Matt Barkley and Landry Jones coming out.

Matt Barkley will be the number 1 pick and Landry Jones wasn't that great of a prospect to begin with. This is the big class. Next years class will be worse. Maybe Tyler Wilson stays hot but if he's a top 5 pick then we'll have to trade up to get him which will probably cost a pretty penny. If Tyler Wilson goes cold no one will want him then it will be all about the 2014 class.

Either way the 2013 QB class is projecting to be much weaker depth and talent wise then 2012. Heck from what I've seen the 2013 class has the potential to be downright ugly.

2013: Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Landry Jones............EJ Manual?

vs

2012: Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Brock Osweiler, Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

And Matt Flynn is Kevin Kolb.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA. (thats my buzzer sound) No I think not. Kolb played in something like 15 games and pretty much sucked in all of them. Which is why I was not rooting for the Skins to make a play. Also why I'm happy we didn't make a play. The Cards just found out what almost most of us should have known.... Kolb sucks.

Flynn on the other hand only has had 2 games and did fairly well in the first and awesome in the second. Managed the game well against a stout defense is not Kolb like.

My last point, our options at QB in the FA are limited to only a few half decent QB's and out of them 1 is aged and recovering (PM), 1 is going to take a draft pick (Hoyer), and 1 is definitely back up material and no better then Grossman(Orton), and 1 that is simply an unknown no draft pick requiring FA (Flynn). My reasoning for Flynn is because he's still young, healthy, knows the WCO, has shown he can play in the NFL and can manage a game pretty well, and can make all the throws. Pick him up with the understanding he'll challenge for starting position and draft a Rookie. make them battle it out in preseason and play the best candidate. This way we'd have 2 relatively young QB's that are healthy and can play for the future of this team.

[SBXVII]

[QUOTE=30gut;886364]

This is where we diverge.
Although I think Weeden has 'plus' arm talent I don't think its on the elite NFL level which is where I put Flacco's.
I see Weeden as a less mobile but stronger armed Andy Dalton.
Regardless of how many reads or how far along any QB prospect is right now; to have success at the next level they're all gonna have to become more effecient multiple progression read QBs.
Whether its Weeden or any other prospect.
QUOTE]

Which includes RGIII. His knock is he stares down his receivers, does not go through his progressions well. Usually only throwing to his first read rarely making it to his second before taking off running. He's gunna need a lot of work on this.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Josh Johnson would likely not be a starter

Nor would Jimmy Clausen for that matter

Yeah I believe Hoyer is the main under the radar guy not being talked about

annnnnnnddddddd Mark Sanchez!

Seriously though, I just feel like Manning's not coming here because I don't get the sense there is a strong "passion" to bring him here from the group of decision makers. They're probably more passionate about Orton (they did nearly acquire him twice after all), relatively speaking. And...truthishly...Hoyer and Clausen are two names that always kind of stay in the conversation while others tend to come and go

So I could see trade a 3rd for Hoyer, sign Clausen, use the 2nd to get a Foles/Cousins type

So, you are saying the sources you have are telling you that our front office, of the washington redskins.............ahem, let me clear my throat, ahem.......okay.....ugh, uh uh hmmmmmmmm, alright, Im ready, is more passionate about Kyle orton, hold up, let me wipe the bit of vomit from around my crusty bottom lip........., ok, as I was saying, they are more passionate about Kyle Orton, than Peyton Manning.

If that is the truth, than the ego of the front office, sorry to say, is completely out of fvckin hand.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

So, you are saying the sources you have are telling you that our front office, of the washington redskins.............ahem, let me clear my throat, ahem.......okay.....ugh, uh uh hmmmmmmmm, alright, Im ready, is more passionate about Kyle orton, hold up, let me wipe the bit of vomit from around my crusty bottom lip........., ok, as I was saying, they are more passionate about Kyle Orton, than Peyton Manning.

Well, lemme say something. Your sources ****IN SUCK. If that is the truth, than the ego of the front office, sorry to say, is completely out of fvckin hand.

Boy, this really came out of left field. I'm not a huge fan of Orton either but it's a moot point if Manning can't return. Besides, even if we sign Orton it doesn't mean they plan on him being here long term.

[Mechanix544]

there, I prettied it up.

No disrespect to SS, but if they indeed are "passionate" in any way about Kyle Orton, well, I dunno. I guess it makes me want to cry. We can do better than Kyle Orton people. Arent the fans 0f the washington redskins due for some good qb play? Dont just settle for (fill in the blank) when talking about your next qb, GO AND GET HIM!!!!!!

[MTK]

Well, Orton certainly comes with a lot less risk. Let's not think that Orton solves the QB dilemma. We'll still draft someone. And there's still the chance PM stays in Indy, or simply chooses another team.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

there, I prettied it up.

No disrespect to SS, but if they indeed are "passionate" in any way about Kyle Orton, well, I dunno. I guess it makes me want to cry. We can do better than Kyle Orton people. Arent the fans 0f the washington redskins due for some good qb play? Dont just settle for (fill in the blank) when talking about your next qb, GO AND GET HIM!!!!!!

Agree 1000%. Only way Orton makes any sense at all is if they intend to get RG3 in the draft. Orton is fine to start for a month or so if RG3 is not ready on opening day but if they are counting on him for anything more then that then it's a disaster IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Let me clarify, universally (meaning within the key decision makers) there are fewer concerns about Orton than Manning. The biggest advocate for Manning probably has the least say. I'm not sure they're rah rah for either, quite honestly