2nd half concerns

MTK · 11-08-2005, 11:11 AM

vote and discuss

skinsguy · 11-08-2005, 11:16 AM

Turnovers....and of course stupid penalities....if we avoid both, we'll win out.

Daseal · 11-08-2005, 11:17 AM

Turnovers. Without them these games would be far more inbalanced.

firstdown · 11-08-2005, 11:20 AM

My vote goes for turnovers. We got lucky against Philly that we recovered the two fumbles if not we probably would have lost the game. In our other losses we have had turnover problems and they probably cost us atleast one win. If we keep turning the ball over it is going to cost us a couple more games knocking us out of the playoffs.

BrudLee · 11-08-2005, 11:28 AM

The defensive breakdowns were prevalent in our three losses. Though no one likes turnovers, we gave up huge plays that lost the Denver and KC games, and we never got hold of the Giants in the Meadowlands.

Stacks42 · 11-08-2005, 11:28 AM

The turnover situation can be easly fixed, it is a mental problem, a lack of consentration. On the other hand the redskins D especially the D-line has been exposed, and if the problem is not rectified, then teams will continue to exploit the run D for big gains, forcing our O to play catch up, which we have had to do for most of the season.

jermus22 · 11-08-2005, 11:29 AM

Turnovers

Hog1 · 11-08-2005, 11:38 AM

Turnovers-keeping our O on the field is our Best D

funandgunner · 11-08-2005, 11:54 AM

1. Antonio Pierce and the Giants - when we play them, we need to adjust the entire o and d system because of Pierce's extensive knowledge of the redskins.
2. Big plays given up on D.
3. Need the oline to be more physical in the running game.
4. Need another receiver to step up (other than moss or an h-back)

skinsfanthru&thru · 11-08-2005, 07:02 PM

I was close to voting for turnovers but I had to go with a strong running game. Some of the turnovers have resulted in us having to pass more than we should have to and although I really like Portis, it amazes me how he seems incapable of getting off a run of more than 15 yards. I don't know if it's his occasional lack of patience or him sometimes waiting too long and missing the hole, but he just never seems to be able to slip through the linebackers and into the secondary. He's getting way too many 1-3 yard carries where as whenever Betts comes in he seems to be getting 4-6 yards atleast on every carry and is breaking through tackles and carrying people on his back for a little extra each time. The running game gaining some strength would go a long way to helping with ball control and getting the wrs in more one on one situations.

That Guy · 11-08-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

He's getting way too many 1-3 yard carries where as whenever Betts comes in he seems to be getting 4-6 yards atleast on every carry and is breaking through tackles and carrying people on his back for a little extra each time.

portis is getting stuffed constantly while betts is always getting 4-6yards at a time? Then why do they both have the exact same 4.2ypc averages?

MTK · 11-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

portis is getting stuffed constantly while betts is always getting 4-6yards at a time? Then why do they both have the exact same 4.2ypc averages?

LOL, how's the saying go, perception is reality?

skinsfanthru&thru · 11-08-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

portis is getting stuffed constantly while betts is always getting 4-6yards at a time? Then why do they both have the exact same 4.2ypc averages?

portis has a few more 10+ plus runs to counter-act his many 1-3 yard carries while Betts seems to more consistently hit the hole and pick up 4-6 yards. or maybe I'm the only one seeing portis constantly stalling at the line and pretty much falling forward to try and get back to the line of scrimage. in the last game for example he had 3 times the amount of carries for 4 yards or less than he did for 5 yards or more. he does a decent job of breakin a 10-20 yard run maybe once or twice a game, but is not as consistent as the team needs and as his contract would suggest and his injuries aren't helping the matter.

saskin · 11-08-2005, 10:35 PM

Turnovers, they really cost us the game in KC (especially points scored off of them) and the opening drive in Denver.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-08-2005, 11:50 AM

Turnovers, thank God we got some lucky bounces last game.

View Poll Results: What is the biggest concern for the Skins playoff chances?
Tough division	17	16.83%
Turnovers	43	42.57%
Defensive breakdowns (big plays)	21	20.79%
Lack of consistently strong running game	15	14.85%
Other	5	4.95%
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11-08-2005, 11:11 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	2nd half concerns vote and discuss

11-08-2005, 11:16 AM	#2
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers....and of course stupid penalities....if we avoid both, we'll win out. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-08-2005, 11:17 AM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers. Without them these games would be far more inbalanced. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-08-2005, 11:20 AM	#4
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: 2nd half concerns My vote goes for turnovers. We got lucky against Philly that we recovered the two fumbles if not we probably would have lost the game. In our other losses we have had turnover problems and they probably cost us atleast one win. If we keep turning the ball over it is going to cost us a couple more games knocking us out of the playoffs.

11-08-2005, 11:28 AM	#5
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: 2nd half concerns The defensive breakdowns were prevalent in our three losses. Though no one likes turnovers, we gave up huge plays that lost the Denver and KC games, and we never got hold of the Giants in the Meadowlands. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

11-08-2005, 11:28 AM	#6
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 48 Posts: 836	Re: 2nd half concerns The turnover situation can be easly fixed, it is a mental problem, a lack of consentration. On the other hand the redskins D especially the D-line has been exposed, and if the problem is not rectified, then teams will continue to exploit the run D for big gains, forcing our O to play catch up, which we have had to do for most of the season. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

11-08-2005, 11:29 AM	#7
jermus22 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Frankfort, KY Age: 43 Posts: 336	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers __________________ Win it in the trenches.

11-08-2005, 11:38 AM	#8
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers-keeping our O on the field is our Best D __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

11-08-2005, 11:54 AM	#9
funandgunner Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 45	Re: 2nd half concerns 1. Antonio Pierce and the Giants - when we play them, we need to adjust the entire o and d system because of Pierce's extensive knowledge of the redskins. 2. Big plays given up on D. 3. Need the oline to be more physical in the running game. 4. Need another receiver to step up (other than moss or an h-back)

11-08-2005, 07:02 PM	#10
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	Re: 2nd half concerns I was close to voting for turnovers but I had to go with a strong running game. Some of the turnovers have resulted in us having to pass more than we should have to and although I really like Portis, it amazes me how he seems incapable of getting off a run of more than 15 yards. I don't know if it's his occasional lack of patience or him sometimes waiting too long and missing the hole, but he just never seems to be able to slip through the linebackers and into the secondary. He's getting way too many 1-3 yard carries where as whenever Betts comes in he seems to be getting 4-6 yards atleast on every carry and is breaking through tackles and carrying people on his back for a little extra each time. The running game gaining some strength would go a long way to helping with ball control and getting the wrs in more one on one situations.

11-08-2005, 10:35 PM	#14
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 37 Posts: 355	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers, they really cost us the game in KC (especially points scored off of them) and the opening drive in Denver.

11-08-2005, 11:50 AM	#15
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: 2nd half concerns Turnovers, thank God we got some lucky bounces last game. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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