Manhunt for ex-LA cop suspected of shooting 3 cops and killing 2 others

[NC_Skins]

Ex-cop wages 'war' against former colleagues - CNN.com

This is bizarre to say the least.

Los Angeles (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles cop who allegedly warned he would target law enforcement in retribution for being fired is now suspected of shooting three officers early Thursday, killing one, authorities said.

The shootings -- which come a day after Irvine, California, police named Christopher Jordan Dorner as the suspect in a double slaying there Sunday -- sparked a huge manhunt in Southern California.

There is a twist to this story. His manifesto was released that dealt with massive police corruption within the LAPD. I do mean massive.

CRIME, GUNS, AND VIDEOTAPE: Fired LAPD Officer, Obama Lover and Committed Gun Control Advocate is Being Sought In Revenge Killings!

"Feb 4, 2013 9:14:04 AM Last Resort
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281

I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

These are the kinds of things that happen when you keep suppressing corruption instead of nipping it in the bud. Revenge. He's already killed the daughter and fiancee of the person he had the biggest complaint against and he's not done.


edit: what led to his initial firing was him exposing a fellow officer for police brutality.

Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Former LAPD Officer Attempted to Flee Country Before Allegedly Shooting Cops - Yahoo!

According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field-training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of an arrest she had kicked a suspect who was a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

After an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.

[NC_Skins]

Police shoot two in Torrance in search for ex-LAPD cop - latimes.com


What the hell is wrong with these cops? Shooting unarmed citizens because you "think" that's the suspect. Get these dickheads off the street and disarm them ASAP.

[Chico23231]

LAPD is corrupt. Its a horrible thing, but these institutions sow their seeds.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

LAPD is corrupt. Its a horrible thing, but these institutions sow their seeds.

The LAPD has had a history of corruption. It is, however, wrong (to me) to assume that this individual is anything but selective in his version of events:

"This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences," the letter said.

Beck, the current LAPD chief, said that the internal affairs case that Dorner spent much of the letter focusing on had been treated fairly through the police department's review board.

"That case was thoroughly adjudicated. It went through several levels of review up to the point where even a civilian representative listened to the entirety of the case. You will find Dorner's statements to be self-serving and the statements of somebody who was extremely unhappy in his lot in life," Beck said.

And, of course, the Riverside, CA must also be corrupt as he had no compuction to rolling up and start shooting them.

The police chief of nearby Riverside, Calif., also dismissed the writings after Dorner allegedly shot and killed a Riverside police officer in the early hours of Thursday morning. Dorner pulled up across from two Riverside officers stopped at a traffic light in their patrol car and used his rifle to shoot them, killing one and injuring the other, according to Chief Sergio Diaz of the Riverside Police Department.

"The manifesto speaks for itself in terms of a depraved and cowardly mind and heart, and the way he ambushed your public servants speaks for itself," Diaz said.

Los Angeles Cops Say Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself' - ABC News

[itvnetop]

This story is like a movie, if this guy was Jason Bourne gone bad. The manifesto is compelling, yet downright creepy.

[hooskins]

I am not doubting any accusations coming from this guy but killing isn't the right way to address your concerns.

Also think the LAPD doesn't need to shoot random suspects but they've been doing that since day one. They view this as a war and will act in that way

[JoeRedskin]

1. I find the amount of credibility given to a murderer appalling;

2. The man is a coward and a despicable human being for targeting the family members of those he blames;

3. The LAPD is an imperfect government agency staffed by honorable and dishonorable, competent and incompetent people. As such, it differs only in degree from every other government agency in existence;

4. Any officer discharging their weapons at civilians should be immediately suspended from the force pending a revocation hearing.

Nothing, nothing, nothing justifies this man's actions. This is a warped individual who clearly has a warped view of right and wrong - to give credence to his "word" is to give credence to his warped view.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

1. I find the amount of credibility given to a murderer appalling;

3. The LAPD is an imperfect government agency staffed by honorable and dishonorable, competent and incompetent people. As such, it differs only in degree from every other government agency in existence;

O'rly?


Ex-LA Cop Brian Bentley on Dorner Manifesto: ‘Not Only do I Believe it, but I Lived it’ | EURweb

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

O'rly?

Really.

"For somebody like Chris, he was the type of person that without him having a badge, without him having that job, title of police officer, I really don't think he would exist without it," Williams said.

...

Williams says Dorner fabricated stories, and that's the reason why the judge involved in his disciplinary hearings dismissed him from the department. He saw right through his stories, Williams said.

"He did not like that," Williams said. "He sort of got mouthy with the judge and the judge was like, 'You're not going to come in here and tell me how to run my courtroom even though you're a cop. You think I'm going to automatically take your side.'"

Chris Dorner ex-girlfriend speaks out, describes him as 'paranoid' | abc13.com

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Really.



Chris Dorner ex-girlfriend speaks out, describes him as 'paranoid' | abc13.com

LOL. You post tripe from a "ex" girlfriend as a character assassination? Wow...lol

No offense JR, but judicial system is just as complicit and crooked as the cops. Judges and lawyers are bought off all the time and to think otherwise is simply being naive. Being paranoid doesn't make you wrong, and who's the say that this girlfriend isn't some lunatic that wants revenge on her ex?

Furthermore, I'm absolutely sick and ****ing tired of every time somebody exposes something, they are "deranged" or "crazy". You know what's crazy? Allowing corrupt cops and lawyers to continue running a corrupt system where the cops can do whatever they want and nothing happen.



Executed. Yet this cop was cleared.

Wrongful-death lawsuit filed against LA County Sheriff's Department in fatal shooting | abc7.com



How many cops were sentenced for this?



None.


I believe Dorner more than I do crooked cops and judges, who continue to cover up crimes commited by LA law enforcers.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. You post tripe from a "ex" girlfriend as a character assassination? Wow...lol

... Being paranoid doesn't make you wrong, and who's the say that this girlfriend isn't some lunatic that wants revenge on her ex?

I posted it to show that perhaps, just perhaps, the individual involved was not entirely stable and more than a little delusional. Her statements seem consistent with his rambling, paranoid manifesto and his actions, i.e., rolling up on cops sitting in their car - not LAPD mind you - and opening fire on them after killing the daughter of the guy that defended him. Rather than simply dismiss her as a vindictive ex, find me statements, any statements, of someone who knew him at or near the time of the incidents in question that (1) contradict her characterizations; (2) indictate his actions were completely out character; and/or (3) supports the specific facts presented in his manifesto. I have seen no one, not a single soul who was familiar with him, state that he has been mischaracterized as a delusional, paranoid murderer.

Your inherent prejudices are obvious. You instantly credit the word of a murderer who leaves a twenty page rant but call an ex-girlfriend's allegations "tripe" even though they are facially no more or less credible than his. I found nothing in her statements that seemed overly vindictive or angry - just the statements of a scared ex. Why are her statements instantly discredited by you? Why are they to be accorded so little weight? B/c she is an ex-girlfriend? No, because she disagrees with your perception. Of course, had she blamed the other officers or given a statement in accord with your beliefs, I have no doubt she would have gain instant credibility in your eyes and cited in support of your position. In and of themselves, her statements are proof of nothing, but, in light of Dorner's own words and actions, I find them much more convincing than not of his delusional world view.

As to "being wrong", I do not assert that the LAPD is not still having issues - just as itventop mentioned - at the same time, federal oversight was removed b/c of the strides made and as observed by independent federal investigators. Is that conclusive? of course not, but it should be seen for what it was - non-LAPD investigators finding actual improvement. Did you read the Rampart Report? the original Consent Decree? or the ruling of Judge Feess?

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No offense JR, but judicial system is just as complicit and crooked as the cops. Judges and lawyers are bought off all the time and to think otherwise is simply being naive. ...

Furthermore, I'm absolutely sick and ****ing tired of every time somebody exposes something, they are "deranged" or "crazy". You know what's crazy? Allowing corrupt cops and lawyers to continue running a corrupt system where the cops can do whatever they want and nothing happen.

Executed. Yet this cop was cleared.

How many cops were sentenced for this?

None.

You know, I work in the legal system every day. Have done so for over 20 years now. Although I work in the civil side, I have defended Troopers in tort cases from auto-accidents to excessive force matters. In my over 20 years, and as to the hundreds of legislators, lawyers and judges with whom I have worked, there has never been a situation where I witnessed or even suspected corruption. Stupidity, incompetence and individual dishonesty - yup. Is this proof that corruption is non-existent? of course not. It is, to me anyway, proof that it is not as pervasive as some folks tend to think.

As for the anecdotal cases you bring forward, you may be right - they may be just as bad as you suggest. There may, of course, be another side to the story - one which doesn't fit into a 10 minute youtube clip and which you would undoubtedly & instantly discredit b/c it would most likely contradict with your world view that cops are guilty of any and all alleged corruption and evil until their innocence is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I have no idea if police are being sanctioned more or less than they were 10, 20 or 30 years ago. I googled it and didn't see anything that looked like a legitmate comprehensive study on the issue. Everyday, however, their are literally 1000's of interactions between civilians and law enforcement. Undoubtedly, there will be wrongs committed and, equally undoubtedly, police brutality and corruption are real things. However, it does seem to me that, in this day and age of cell phones and videos, the public actions of police are under more scrutiny than they have ever been before. I also know from my professional interactions with police departments and police officers that there are more and more safeguards put in place against the abuse of authority than there were even 10 years ago. To be clear, I consider that a good thing.

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I believe Dorner more than I do crooked cops and judges, who continue to cover up crimes commited by LA law enforcers.

Of course you do - he may be a murderer, but he is a murderer who preaches to your choir so he must be right. To me, based on the entirety of his ramblings and his murderous actions, I find him to be an individual who perceptions are deeply and inherently flawed and, thus, find his words to carry as much weight as the paper on which they are printed and no more.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. You post tripe from a "ex" girlfriend as a character assassination? Wow...lol

No offense JR, but judicial system is just as complicit and crooked as the cops. Judges and lawyers are bought off all the time and to think otherwise is simply being naive. Being paranoid doesn't make you wrong, and who's the say that this girlfriend isn't some lunatic that wants revenge on her ex?

Furthermore, I'm absolutely sick and ****ing tired of every time somebody exposes something, they are "deranged" or "crazy". You know what's crazy? Allowing corrupt cops and lawyers to continue running a corrupt system where the cops can do whatever they want and nothing happen.



Executed. Yet this cop was cleared.

Wrongful-death lawsuit filed against LA County Sheriff's Department in fatal shooting | abc7.com



How many cops were sentenced for this?



None.


I believe Dorner more than I do crooked cops and judges, who continue to cover up crimes commited by LA law enforcers.

Seems the cop was a good shot. One less thug off the street.


"Was he armed? Yes. Is the whole story being told now? No. Let's not forget who has already investigated this: Internal Affairs, Office of Independent Review monitoring that. Homicide Bureau. The District Attorney," said Sheriff's Spokesman Steve Whitmore.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

O'rly?


Ex-LA Cop Brian Bentley on Dorner Manifesto: ‘Not Only do I Believe it, but I Lived it’ | EURweb

I love these people who craw out from under a rock after something happens. If he is man enough to come now why not when this happened?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I love these people who craw out from under a rock after something happens. If he is man enough to come now why not when this happened?

Well, in fairness, Bently wrote a book about the LAPD's endemic racism while he was still on the force. Pretty significant way to man up on the matter.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, in fairness, Bently wrote a book about the LAPD's endemic racism while he was still on the force. Pretty significant way to man up on the matter.

My bad should have read the whole thing first.