Trayvon Martin Case

[DynamiteRave]

By now everyone should have heard about it. Figured I'd put it in the Debating the Enemy thread in case there are dissenting viewpoints about the case and how it is/should be handled.

Trayvon Martin Case: Does Florida Law Protect Shooter? - Yahoo! News

[RedskinRat]

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

I feel like that too... Somewhat. It's obvious that the shooter was a nut to begin with. But I think random black kid in the neighborhood had to of played at least a small role, but I'm not sure of the racial make up of Sanford. But I feel like if it was any seedy looking kid of any race, this still may have still been the final outcome.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

after listening to zimmerman's 911 call, i feel that martin's race played a role.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Over zealous curtain-twitcher meets mouthy teenager.

Drop the race angle.

Race has everything to do with this and if you don't think so you're a fcking moron.


If I'm Trayvon's father I'm playing the lead role in Law Abiding Citizen.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by saden1

Race has everything to do with this and if you don't think so you're a fcking moron.


If I'm Trayvon's father I'm playing the lead role in Law Abiding Citizen.

Sorry, didn't know you were there, hippie.....

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Sorry, didn't know you were there, hippie.....

I wasn't aware I had to be at the scene to evaluate and determine what happened from the facts on record...I suppose I should make my way to Darfur too before I should condemn the Janjaweeds.


Try exercising your brain once in a while... at the very least it will make feel smarter.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by saden1

I wasn't aware I had to be at the scene to evaluate and determine what happened from the facts on record...I suppose I should make my way to Darfur too before I should condemn the Janjaweeds.

You sound WAAAAY to personally invested to make a reasoned argument based on how you're posting. Calm down.

Originally Posted by saden1

Try exercising your brain once in a while... at the very least it will make feel smarter.

Adjust your head-pointer, the sweat is making you miss words.

How smart would I need to be to post on this forum? They allow you to post so I'm happy I can exceed whatever entrance exam you've passed.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by saden1

Race has everything to do with this and if you don't think so you're a fcking moron.


If I'm Trayvon's father I'm playing the lead role in Law Abiding Citizen.

This. I think race has an awful lot to do with this. I think the definition of racism in this country is night and day from what true racism was back in the early to mid (to late) 1900's. Racism today is more from a profiling standpoint than it is from a "I hate this person because they're black/latino/ect." its a "This person is black/latino/white, ect so I think they're up to no good".

I think EVERYONE has been guilty of this type of profiling at some point.

So do I think this kid got shot because this guy hated black people, no. But if the kid had been a suspicious looking white kid dressed in a golf shirt, I don't think think this happens either.

[That Guy]

I think it's a bad law.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by That Guy

I think it's a bad law.

I agree. I think it's like the Floridians say, it's shoot first ask questions later. I think the neighborhood watch guy deserves to be punished for this, and I don't want to start a racial conversation or anything but it sounds like this guy has a real problem with stereotyping minorities. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, I really hope the FBI/DOJ come down hard on him since the local authorities apparently won't.

[mlmdub130]

Terrible law, crazy this guy has not been arrested as of yet. The dispatcher he was on the phone with told him not to confront the kid. He confronted him and scuffled with him and killed him. He needs to be in jail and hopefully will be shortly. If he ends up not getting any jail time I will lose the last thread of faith I have in our court systems.

[RedskinRat]

"The major problem with stand your ground is that it exists in tandem with state laws that allow so many loaded guns to be carried around in public," says Daniel Vice, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington.

And yet the streets are NOT running with blood and Florida hasn't turned into the Wild West.

There's no way this guy should have shot the kid, Neighborhood Watch should be just that, 'WATCH' then report not try to be an enforcer.

Anyone remember a similar case with the old dude shooting two burglars after the dispatcher said don't do anything?

[NC_Skins]

This is a no brainer. The guy was told not to pursue and he did, and ended up killing a person (17 year old kid) with no weapon. There is nothing that Zimmerman can claim that would justify his using lethal force. No knife, no gun, no bat, no nothing. Also, the fact he pursued and instigated the fight/scuffle is all the more reason to arrest, detain and charge Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder or Voluntary Manslaughter.

Inexcusable to say the least.

[firstdown]

You mean him calling the guy a F&^ing Cone brings race into the picture.LOL I think Zimmerman caused the problem but I don't think the other guy is the innocent little boy thay mak him out to be.