People say i got ripped what you think....

bridaman51 · 08-07-2006, 01:35 PM

I in the processes of purchasing a new home and part of this deal is my SPORTS room. I have all kinds of collectibles that are packed in the basement that will finally be displayed in all there Redskin Glory. But that stuff just was not enough so this weekend visting my parents I shopped on Ebay. I know ebay and my wife and everyone else has used it but I have never. Well I want more stuff for my room, so First bid on a John Riggins Signed Football, lost that because we was using dial up and I am used to DSL so I did not get my bid in time (I was annoyed). I did however get a Santanna Moss Signed Official football for $58.00 (including shipping football was 48 and shipping was 10). But the coolest to me was a 1969 sports illustrated which featured the Redskins, it was Titled "Let the Scalping Begin" and on the cover was Vince Lombardi and Sonny Jurgenson and that cost me a total of 7 dollars (4.50 for the mag and 2.50 for shipping). My wife thinks I am crazy but I am stoked about these two gems I have picked up.

Now I know people are going to be a bit biased (because any Redskin memorable is never to costly) but I need to know that I am not crazy. All have COA and pass all the autgraph inspections stuff or money back, I thought what a deal. heck the NFL football is probably worth 30-40 bucks alone.

steveo395 · 08-07-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bridaman51

I in the processes of purchasing a new home and part of this deal is my SPORTS room. I have all kinds of collectibles that are packed in the basement that will finally be displayed in all there Redskin Glory. But that stuff just was not enough so this weekend visting my parents I shopped on Ebay. I know ebay and my wife and everyone else has used it but I have never. Well I want more stuff for my room, so First bid on a John Riggins Signed Football, lost that because we was using dial up and I am used to DSL so I did not get my bid in time (I was annoyed). I did however get a Santanna Moss Signed Official football for $58.00 (including shipping football was 48 and shipping was 10). But the coolest to me was a 1969 sports illustrated which featured the Redskins, it was Titled "Let the Scalping Begin" and on the cover was Vince Lombardi and Sonny Jurgenson and that cost me a total of 7 dollars (4.50 for the mag and 2.50 for shipping). My wife thinks I am crazy but I am stoked about these two gems I have picked up.

Now I know people are going to be a bit biased (because any Redskin memorable is never to costly) but I need to know that I am not crazy. All have COA and pass all the autgraph inspections stuff or money back, I thought what a deal. heck the NFL football is probably worth 30-40 bucks alone.

an official football is $70 or $80 alone so i think you got a good deal on that one

Warpath · 08-07-2006, 01:46 PM

I think you did just fine. I used to buy stuff on ebay all the time. That has since changed due to my now 5 week old. All that matters about what you bought is that YOU wanted it, liked it, and bought it. Screw what everyone else thinks.
Go Skins!

jamf · 08-07-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Warpath

I think you did just fine. I used to buy stuff on ebay all the time. That has since changed due to my now 5 week old. All that matters about what you bought is that YOU wanted it, liked it, and bought it. Screw what everyone else thinks.
Go Skins!

AGREED!

Buy it because you like it!

Now if you are buying it as an investment, Be very careful.

bridaman51 · 08-07-2006, 02:10 PM

:heck NO I would NEVER sell my Redskins stuff, Unless I have 2 of them.

firstdown · 08-07-2006, 03:15 PM

You must have thought it was a good deal because you made the purchase and thats all that matters. An item is worth what one is willing to pay for it.

jdlea · 08-07-2006, 03:28 PM

Those both seem like great prices for both of the items you described. I can say that I would have paid that amount for either of them, so I think you got two very good deals.

memphisskin · 08-07-2006, 03:44 PM

Redskins memorablia is priceless, so whatever you paid consider it a bargain.

TheMalcolmConnection · 08-07-2006, 03:59 PM

Let me be honest with you about eBay stuff. I've gotten real signatures and they're nowhere close the one's I've "bought" from eBay. Anyone, anywhere can buy a "COA" for a nominal fee. These places that hand them out don't even care, they just take the money and ship the scheister a COA. Be VERY careful when buying stuff like that online, specifically from people who seem to sell a lot of autographs because they could very well be buying a $10 football and putting their own Herbie Hancock on it.

steveo395 · 08-07-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Let me be honest with you about eBay stuff. I've gotten real signatures and they're nowhere close the one's I've "bought" from eBay. Anyone, anywhere can buy a "COA" for a nominal fee. These places that hand them out don't even care, they just take the money and ship the scheister a COA. Be VERY careful when buying stuff like that online, specifically from people who seem to sell a lot of autographs because they could very well be buying a $10 football and putting their own Herbie Hancock on it.

love the tommy boy reference

Skinsfanmania · 08-07-2006, 06:37 PM

sounds like a steel to me.

Monkeydad · 08-08-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinsfanmania

sounds like a steel to me.

No, it's titanium.

I think you made out very well on your purchases.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 08-07-2006, 05:10 PM

I have to echo TMC here. The thing is a COA is really just a piece of paper unless it comes from a reliable source. In my experience you can count on certificates of authenticity (with corresponding serial-numbered stickers on the item) from PSA/DNA, Tristar Productions, and Steiner Sports. Not to say those are the only ones, but from my research they are the most respected. If JoeBlowSports gives you a fancy looking COA, what kind of guarantee do you really have? Is it really any different than someone saying "Trust me, I promise you it's real"? Just because it's in the form of a piece of paper doesn't make it true.

Also, the money back guarantee does nothing to convince me. Look at it this way: if you spend the money to have an independent verification done by a reputable agency and find out it is a fake, you are out the money for shipping and handling and for the verification. The seller gives you back your money for the item and gets the item back from you. So you lose, and he breaks even. The seller then re-sells the item on Ebay again and again until they sell it to someone who doesn't bother getting an independent appraisal done. Eventually, the seller is going to make his money, but really the reason he guarantees your money back is to make you feel like you can trust him and that he's guaranteeing the item's authenticity. All he's really guaranteeing, however, is that he'll pay back anyone who is smart enough to prove that he's a fraud.......and at worst he'll break even to do that.

That said, I would recommend sending the football to PSA/DNA and having them verify the item is authentic. This should cost you about $10-15. It more than pays for itself because if it's a fraud, you wouldn't want it. If it's authentic, you've just doubled the value of the item because you now have a verified authentic signature from the most trusted agency in the business (and anyone that wants to verify the COA you'll get from PSA/DNA can go directly to their website and track the item by the numbered sticker they will place on your football).

I don't mean to rain on your parade........I'm just incredibly sceptical when it comes to signatures and COAs. From the research I've done on the topic, the incidents of forgery have really exploded with the advent of Ebay. It only makes sense to do what you can to protect yourself.

Riggo44 · 08-07-2006, 07:40 PM

If your happy it's a good deal.
I just got a 82' Theismann single bar face mask RK helmet to add to my collection. Some people might think I got ripped off. But I like it so I don't care.

RiggoRules · 08-08-2006, 12:32 PM

First off, buying autographed gear for investment purposes is highly risky and takes a great deal of knowledge. But if you are buying it to have a cool Skins room, then you made out just fine.

What was the seller's feedback rating and what kind of comments did he have? If his rating was not at least in triple digits, I'd be very skeptical.

You can learn quite a bit from any negative comments.

08-07-2006, 01:35 PM	#1
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 335	People say i got ripped what you think.... I in the processes of purchasing a new home and part of this deal is my SPORTS room. I have all kinds of collectibles that are packed in the basement that will finally be displayed in all there Redskin Glory. But that stuff just was not enough so this weekend visting my parents I shopped on Ebay. I know ebay and my wife and everyone else has used it but I have never. Well I want more stuff for my room, so First bid on a John Riggins Signed Football, lost that because we was using dial up and I am used to DSL so I did not get my bid in time (I was annoyed). I did however get a Santanna Moss Signed Official football for $58.00 (including shipping football was 48 and shipping was 10). But the coolest to me was a 1969 sports illustrated which featured the Redskins, it was Titled "Let the Scalping Begin" and on the cover was Vince Lombardi and Sonny Jurgenson and that cost me a total of 7 dollars (4.50 for the mag and 2.50 for shipping). My wife thinks I am crazy but I am stoked about these two gems I have picked up. Now I know people are going to be a bit biased (because any Redskin memorable is never to costly) but I need to know that I am not crazy. All have COA and pass all the autgraph inspections stuff or money back, I thought what a deal. heck the NFL football is probably worth 30-40 bucks alone.

08-07-2006, 01:46 PM	#3
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 49 Posts: 1,762	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... I think you did just fine. I used to buy stuff on ebay all the time. That has since changed due to my now 5 week old. All that matters about what you bought is that YOU wanted it, liked it, and bought it. Screw what everyone else thinks. Go Skins!

08-07-2006, 02:10 PM	#5
bridaman51 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 335	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... :heck NO I would NEVER sell my Redskins stuff, Unless I have 2 of them.

08-07-2006, 03:15 PM	#6
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... You must have thought it was a good deal because you made the purchase and thats all that matters. An item is worth what one is willing to pay for it.

08-07-2006, 03:28 PM	#7
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... Those both seem like great prices for both of the items you described. I can say that I would have paid that amount for either of them, so I think you got two very good deals.

08-07-2006, 03:44 PM	#8
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... Redskins memorablia is priceless, so whatever you paid consider it a bargain.

08-07-2006, 03:59 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... Let me be honest with you about eBay stuff. I've gotten real signatures and they're nowhere close the one's I've "bought" from eBay. Anyone, anywhere can buy a "COA" for a nominal fee. These places that hand them out don't even care, they just take the money and ship the scheister a COA. Be VERY careful when buying stuff like that online, specifically from people who seem to sell a lot of autographs because they could very well be buying a $10 football and putting their own Herbie Hancock on it. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

08-07-2006, 06:37 PM	#11
Skinsfanmania Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 122	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... sounds like a steel to me.

08-07-2006, 05:10 PM	#13
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 49 Posts: 1,340	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... I have to echo TMC here. The thing is a COA is really just a piece of paper unless it comes from a reliable source. In my experience you can count on certificates of authenticity (with corresponding serial-numbered stickers on the item) from PSA/DNA, Tristar Productions, and Steiner Sports. Not to say those are the only ones, but from my research they are the most respected. If JoeBlowSports gives you a fancy looking COA, what kind of guarantee do you really have? Is it really any different than someone saying "Trust me, I promise you it's real"? Just because it's in the form of a piece of paper doesn't make it true. Also, the money back guarantee does nothing to convince me. Look at it this way: if you spend the money to have an independent verification done by a reputable agency and find out it is a fake, you are out the money for shipping and handling and for the verification. The seller gives you back your money for the item and gets the item back from you. So you lose, and he breaks even. The seller then re-sells the item on Ebay again and again until they sell it to someone who doesn't bother getting an independent appraisal done. Eventually, the seller is going to make his money, but really the reason he guarantees your money back is to make you feel like you can trust him and that he's guaranteeing the item's authenticity. All he's really guaranteeing, however, is that he'll pay back anyone who is smart enough to prove that he's a fraud.......and at worst he'll break even to do that. That said, I would recommend sending the football to PSA/DNA and having them verify the item is authentic. This should cost you about $10-15. It more than pays for itself because if it's a fraud, you wouldn't want it. If it's authentic, you've just doubled the value of the item because you now have a verified authentic signature from the most trusted agency in the business (and anyone that wants to verify the COA you'll get from PSA/DNA can go directly to their website and track the item by the numbered sticker they will place on your football). I don't mean to rain on your parade........I'm just incredibly sceptical when it comes to signatures and COAs. From the research I've done on the topic, the incidents of forgery have really exploded with the advent of Ebay. It only makes sense to do what you can to protect yourself. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

08-07-2006, 07:40 PM	#14
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... If your happy it's a good deal. I just got a 82' Theismann single bar face mask RK helmet to add to my collection. Some people might think I got ripped off. But I like it so I don't care. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

08-08-2006, 12:32 PM	#15
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: People say i got ripped what you think.... First off, buying autographed gear for investment purposes is highly risky and takes a great deal of knowledge. But if you are buying it to have a cool Skins room, then you made out just fine. What was the seller's feedback rating and what kind of comments did he have? If his rating was not at least in triple digits, I'd be very skeptical. You can learn quite a bit from any negative comments. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

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