Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I can't even begin to describe this recount of part of Cerrato's radio show last Friday morning, so i'll just provide the link.

D.C. Sports Bog - Cerrato discusses an aging offensive line

Cerrato needs to go. If Snyder doesn't fire him, then he's even more oblivious than Cerrato.

Oh, and if you aren't tired of shaking your head in disgust at this team, check out Steinberg's preceding bog entry entitled Zorn: "It is Bleak." Zorn has had most of his duties stripped of him, so you would think he would be really good at the few jobs he had left, right?... right?...

[Trample the Elderly]

This is bad humor.

[SmootSmack]

I'm not sure where Cerrato says here that the Redskins don't have similar problems. On a side note, I'm still not sure why the Redskins (Cerrato) picked up a veteran starting G/T in Jeremy Bridges and he couldn't crack the final roster. On a side to the side note, it is kind of funny to read in this forum today about how much the Redskins suffered from losing Rinehart to injury when many of those people have spent the last two years calling him a bum who shouldn't be on the team anyway.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not sure where Cerrato says here that the Redskins don't have similar problems. On a side note, I'm still not sure why the Redskins (Cerrato) picked up a veteran starting G/T in Jeremy Bridges and he couldn't crack the final roster. On a side to the side note, it is kind of funny to read in this forum today about how much the Redskins suffered from losing Rinehart to injury when many of those people have spent the last two years calling him a bum who shouldn't be on the team anyway.

I think the same thing when folks talk about building up the offensive line, yet they want to pick up a QB with the first round pick.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the same thing when folks talk about building up the offensive line, yet they want to pick up a QB with the first round pick.

^This is what baffles me? Would you rather have an excellent QB who is not getting the ball off in time before the rush gets to him or gets sacked or is running for his life or would you be willing to for go the QB position for one yr and build up the OL some so the QB, whoever is behind center, has more time to throw and not getting creamed?

I imagine JC is gone after this season. Snyder is not impressed with JC and JC is not impressed with how he was handled this off season. So I doubt he stays....unless whoever is the new HC seriously talks DS and JC into keeping JC on this team. Which I doubt will happen.

It's now painfully obvious we need young healthy talent on the O-line. Can we atleast build that up so no matter who is QBing or RBing is going to do half decent?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

^This is what baffles me? Would you rather have an excellent QB who is not getting the ball off in time before the rush gets to him or gets sacked or is running for his life or would you be willing to for go the QB position for one yr and build up the OL some so the QB, whoever is behind center, has more time to throw and not getting creamed?

I imagine JC is gone after this season. Snyder is not impressed with JC and JC is not impressed with how he was handled this off season. So I doubt he stays....unless whoever is the new HC seriously talks DS and JC into keeping JC on this team. Which I doubt will happen.

It's now painfully obvious we need young healthy talent on the O-line. Can we atleast build that up so no matter who is QBing or RBing is going to do half decent?

I hear you but let me be the devil's advocate for a sec. It's too early to decide on QB/OL, but just for speculation. Again, i don't know how talented any of the QB's that are coming out and i don't know where we are going to pick either. Let's just say though you have the chance to draft a QB w/ a very high ceiling. Maybe a Rivers, P Manning, Brees, Ben R, etc. I think you may have to jump on that opportunity. Do they all work out? No. Could you imagine us being the team who passed said QB?

Not saying we absolutely have to draft a QB. If ones out there that we're high on, we may want to. Don't totally just nix the QB idea.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I hear you but let me be the devil's advocate for a sec. It's too early to decide on QB/OL, but just for speculation. Again, i don't know how talented any of the QB's that are coming out and i don't know where we are going to pick either. Let's just say though you have the chance to draft a QB w/ a very high ceiling. Maybe a Rivers, P Manning, Brees, Ben R, etc. I think you may have to jump on that opportunity. Do they all work out? No. Could you imagine us being the team who passed said QB?

Not saying we absolutely have to draft a QB. If ones out there that we're high on, we may want to. Don't totally just nix the QB idea.

No I haven't. The glaring need is OL but I know that if we are picking in the top 6 and a top notch QB is available we will pick them. I can't see any HC whoever comes in passing on bringing in "his" QB for "his" system. Levi I think will do well for atleast 3 more years. Heck Jansen is what? 32- 34? Levi still has some time. If not injured.

If QB is the way they will go then 2nd round pick a RT. Pick up a late round RB. Pick up some more OL, maybe a SAM, and maybe another CB. Let all the UFA's know we will conduct an OL camp to see who will be the OL in 2010. Come one come all.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not sure where Cerrato says here that the Redskins don't have similar problems. On a side note, I'm still not sure why the Redskins (Cerrato) picked up a veteran starting G/T in Jeremy Bridges and he couldn't crack the final roster. On a side to the side note, it is kind of funny to read in this forum today about how much the Redskins suffered from losing Rinehart to injury when many of those people have spent the last two years calling him a bum who shouldn't be on the team anyway.

I also thought it was odd that Bridges didn't stick here. We sure could have used him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I also thought it was odd that Bridges didn't stick here. We sure could have used him.

If you put a face on every Redskins season since 2004, this year's face would be Mike Williams. A guy who was signed at basically no cost, and then the organization decided for some ungodly reason that it had really found something and could use this reclaimation project to help build the next great era of Redskins football.

He first started when this was a 2-2 team that could have gone either way, and started four consecutive games, all of which losses, and never really underachieved expectations, he was just what everyone thought he would be. And he played a big role on this offense, for no real good reason.

[SmootSmack]

I'm one of those who would like for the Redskins to very strongly consider taking a QB in the first round. But that doesn't mean I don't want to build the line as well.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm one of those who would like for the Redskins to very strongly consider taking a QB in the first round. But that doesn't mean I don't want to build the line as well.

Its still too early to say what we should do because we have no idea of knowing who our next coach will be or what type of offense we will run, or what players will become available in FA or by trade... but if the CBA is not extended, as much as I hate to say it, Jason Cambell will be the best QB "available." Right now i'm thinking the course of wisdom may be to get some o-linemen, retain campbell on the cheap, and let him hold down the fort for 2010 and then get a QB in 2011.

As much as I don't like Campbell in the long-term, he's played in enough systems that he should do ok at managing the game no matter what system we run in 2010.

[Beemnseven]

Actually, this interview fits perfectly because in Cerrato's mind, he apparently thought our offensive line was in great shape.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Actually, this interview fits perfectly because in Cerrato's mind, he apparently thought our offensive line was in great shape.

I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

I could see parting ways with both of them.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

Either that or he just doesn't want to publicly say that he only has scrubs to deal with.