Pierce Expected to Become UFA

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-23-2005, 12:31 AM

Antonio Pierce is expected to become an unrestricted free agent after talks to re-sign him have ground to a halt.

JESUS! Can the offseason get any worse? Gardner, Pierce, Coles, Smoot, and maybe Samuels. This is friggin crazy. Those are some core Redskins.

SmootSmack · 02-23-2005, 12:32 AM

I heard the Rams might be interested in him. But anyway, is this really a big surprise? It would be foolish of Pierce not to test his value on the open market

Do you have a link by the way?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-23-2005, 12:33 AM

I posted it to the News forum.

SmootSmack · 02-23-2005, 12:33 AM

Yeah just saw it. Thanks

redwagonskins · 02-23-2005, 12:43 AM

Crap. This kind of turnover is what we were supposed to be avoiding.

offiss · 02-23-2005, 01:12 AM

We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

ChounsMan · 02-23-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

I completely agree, just look at Trotter when he played for the Skins. He was shooting the gaps & missing a lot. he goes back to the Eagles in a system that plays to his strength & looked great.

I would not over-pay for Pierce. There will be players out there with equal or better talent for the same $$$.

Daseal · 02-23-2005, 01:26 AM

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

offiss · 02-23-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

Absolutly! I like him a lot in fact I used to tell my Giant buddies I thought he was better than Champ, I still think he will stay, our offer was very fair I don't see other team's breaking the bank for him and we all know he want's to be here, he's just posturing right now.

BossHog · 02-23-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

I like him a lot... I thought he was better than Champ...

I was riding right along with you two guys. Until we hit the Bailey-Smoot-comparison speed bump.

offiss · 02-23-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

I was riding right along with you two guys. Until we hit the Bailey-Smoot-comparison speed bump.

Champ as an athlete is much better than Smoot no doubt, but Smoot's instink's are much better, I try not to judge a player on athletic ability ALA Lavar, but on his abilities as a football player and I have alway's felt Smoot was a better football player he's just smarter than Champ, I never really voiced it to much because I know the kind of IRE I would come under but I have alway's felt that way, it's more of a knock on Champ than pro Smoot who I do like and hope he stay's but I also know Smoot is not an elite CB.

Gmanc711 · 02-23-2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

Agreed too. I belive it is much harder to make a corner look good in a system. Sure the system wont hurt it, but they still have to do whta all corners in the league do, and Smoot did a good job. Peirce did a phenominal job, but I do think alot had to do with the system, though. Dont get me wrong, I love Peirce, but I'm more worried about Smoot than Peirce.

GoSkins! · 02-23-2005, 07:58 AM

There are two positions on defense that Williams addressed last year. One was corner and the other was defensive end. He said that for his system to work, he needed to corners who could play man coverage. He also said that "when Danials is healthy, we are a different defense". That tells me what they feel like they need to be successful. I want Pierce to stay, but at least I did hear that Barrow was actually making progress in his recovery finally.

CRT3 · 02-23-2005, 08:26 AM

The real question is, has Danny and the Redskins ever lost a Spring of publicity and the top team in Free Agency. They missed on one or 2 last year but all in all they were the cream of the crop in the NFL. So should we doubt them on this. Sure we might lose a few players but those aare guys that are after the money and as we saw with N.E. a whole team wins. Smoot I don't mind losing even though he will have to be replaced but apparently we replaced Bailey last year pretty successfully with Spriggs. Be patient as Redskin One is being cleanned and fueled for takeoff next Monday night.

BrudLee · 02-23-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

The real question is, has Danny and the Redskins ever lost a Spring of publicity and the top team in Free Agency. They missed on one or 2 last year but all in all they were the cream of the crop in the NFL. So should we doubt them on this. Sure we might lose a few players but those aare guys that are after the money and as we saw with N.E. a whole team wins. Smoot I don't mind losing even though he will have to be replaced but apparently we replaced Bailey last year pretty successfully with Spriggs. Be patient as Redskin One is being cleanned and fueled for takeoff next Monday night.

I would say that the Eagles made a much bigger free agent splash than we did last year. Owens and Kearse were the prizes, and they got more than their money's worth out of Trotter. Among our "big name" signings - Brunell, Daniels, and Barrow. One didn't play, one played sparingly, and one played himself out of a job.

Also, as much as I'd like to follow the New England paradigm, we have a culture of acquisition to overcome. This team has been about acquiring the biggest name for a long time, and that isn't something that can be turned of like a faucet.

02-23-2005, 12:31 AM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Pierce Expected to Become UFA Antonio Pierce is expected to become an unrestricted free agent after talks to re-sign him have ground to a halt. JESUS! Can the offseason get any worse? Gardner, Pierce, Coles, Smoot, and maybe Samuels. This is friggin crazy. Those are some core Redskins.

02-23-2005, 12:32 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I heard the Rams might be interested in him. But anyway, is this really a big surprise? It would be foolish of Pierce not to test his value on the open market Do you have a link by the way? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-23-2005, 12:33 AM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I posted it to the News forum.

02-23-2005, 12:33 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Yeah just saw it. Thanks __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-23-2005, 12:43 AM	#5
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA Crap. This kind of turnover is what we were supposed to be avoiding.

02-23-2005, 01:12 AM	#6
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA We have to be carefull not over value player's because of a system, William's can make player's look much better than they really are compared to playing in a more conventional defense, the complete reversal that Edward's had when he was here, Pierce whom I have been a fan of since we signed him may not be as good as other's make him out to be, in other word's we shouldn't break the bank for guy's like Pierce and Smoot, reason? I believe we will find as good or better either through the draft or free agency at a much better price, if Pierce feel's he will be as productive in another system then by all mean's, but there could be a good chance he becomes someone else's Jeramiah Trotter.

02-23-2005, 01:26 AM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

02-23-2005, 07:58 AM	#13
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA There are two positions on defense that Williams addressed last year. One was corner and the other was defensive end. He said that for his system to work, he needed to corners who could play man coverage. He also said that "when Danials is healthy, we are a different defense". That tells me what they feel like they need to be successful. I want Pierce to stay, but at least I did hear that Barrow was actually making progress in his recovery finally. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

02-23-2005, 08:26 AM	#14
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA The real question is, has Danny and the Redskins ever lost a Spring of publicity and the top team in Free Agency. They missed on one or 2 last year but all in all they were the cream of the crop in the NFL. So should we doubt them on this. Sure we might lose a few players but those aare guys that are after the money and as we saw with N.E. a whole team wins. Smoot I don't mind losing even though he will have to be replaced but apparently we replaced Bailey last year pretty successfully with Spriggs. Be patient as Redskin One is being cleanned and fueled for takeoff next Monday night. __________________ 16-0 for 2007

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